Spam emails and threatening phone calls

I’m always alert (sometimes more than others) to spam emails. I’ve not had too many spam calls on the mobile but am aware of those too.

However, yesterday and today were different and very disturbing.

Re the emails, both my partner and I got one purporting to be from a lettings agency attaching an invoice for rental charges. It had several indicators that this was spam so normally, we’d just ignore it. What was different about his one was that the email address used for my partner is one known ONLY to Credit Agricole, since it was, in fact a typing error on the part of the bank clerk and we created an email account to match it. Has anyone heard anything about Credit Agricole being hacked perhaps?

The other worry was a phone call on my mobile which went to voicemail. When I listened to the voicemail it was demadning money, issuiong explicit threats and using a lot of gros mots. When my partner listened to it because I didn’t get all of it, it was so fast, he reckoned that he could here noise in the backgrund that sounded like a call centre. The call was extemely aggressive and rather unnerving. Has anyone else had one of these?

Sorry to hear about your experience - it must have been very unsettling though no doubt part of the ploy to panic you into action.

Can’t see anything about CA losing data - but you must have created the email somewhere and it might have leaked from the ISP or mail provider.

For example I have never used my Orange.fr email address, yet the inbox is full of hundreds of spam messages.

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May I suggest you contact your CA branch? I think they need to know.

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Not heard anything about CA being hacked, might be worth contacting them to ask. My phone generally filters most spam calls and those that do occasionally get through get the special treatment :wink::scream:.
I wouldn’t worry about it, delete and forget.

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I completely agree about e.g. orange.fr addresses - we don’t use ours either.

I hadn’t thought about a leak from the ISP - which is ionos.fr they, and CA are the only people who would know this email address. :thinking:

I will certainly be doing that, but forgetting the aggressive and threatening voice may take a while… :roll_eyes:

My partner is calling into CA today to talk to them about it @SuePJ .

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Put that email address into https://haveibeenpwned.com/ https://monitor.mozilla.org/ or Identity Leak Checker

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I have an email address from my ISP which like @billybutcher I have never used to send any emails and I too have hundreds of emails, quite a few from the campaign to re-elect Trump :open_mouth:, even though its a French ISP. These email addresses do get out somehow even if you never use them. It’s possible that someone is selling them in batches but who knows.

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I’m always suspicious when a website asks me to enter my email address if I’m not 100% sure it’s legit. I trust billy’s judgement on this but I won’t do it for the Identity Leak Checker. I do use haveibeenpwned.

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Thanks for the help @billybutcher and @hairbear .

The email address doesn’t look like it’s been the subject of a known data breach according to the sites Billy quoted.

Also, I checked the anti-spam filters on my mobile phone and they are active so the abusive phone call clearly wasn’t caught by those…

Don’t answer the phone is the best solution unless the name of the caller comes up and you know them. CA have a big warning banner on their accounts online page telling customers not to speak to anyone supposedly calling from them. Most nuisance calls are computer generated and will only ring for so many times and then stop for weeks or months if there no response. I get none at all now since I stopped using the landline for good as no one apart from those actually given the mobile number knows that number. If you do answer and they are rude and aggressive, tell them the call is being recorded and the gendarmes will be informed.

You might just be right about CA, guessing an inside job. Although we are different CA regions…

In past 2 days I have had 2 calls I missed which on checking their numbers, showed up as suspicious or marketing calls.

I’m registered with bloctel.fr and have had only 1 marketing call a long way back in 5 years. Yet these 2 in the past 2 days.

I would expect CA to deny snd delay any subsequent admission by 18 months or so.

we registered similarly… but still get the odd, annoying, phone calls… drat and double drat
Now, I’ve been advised by the gendarmes… to demand just “who” they are “how” the Caller has got my number… and tell 'em I’m reporting them to the Authorities… :+1:

Online security seems quite poor here in France.I created an account with Ameli last week and a couple of days later i was getting texts supposedly from Ameli saying that i needed to click on this link otherwise my carte vitale would be suspended,coinsidence,i don,t think so,security breach more likely.

I keep getting demands to pay my speeding fine… and I’ve not taken my car on the road for a few years… :wink:

and the “renew your CV” is a blanket one, I reckon… been going-on for ages…

and another beauty is the text telling me they can’t deliver my parcel…
but just click this link… is the common theme… no matter which “subject” they use :wink: :wink:

I understand your alarm – but I think a leak from CA is much less likely than the sender just having generated the email address randomly, which is what they often do.

That’s true for me too, but the nasty call was on my mobile…

Again, it’s easy (easier than with email) to generate a mobile phone number.

But an unpleasant experience.

On some phones, you can block calls from people not in your contacts.

I’ve never had a nasty call before, either on the landline or the mobile. I almost never answer the phone - if it goes to voicemail, spammers usually ring off so I’m not bothered. This was was threatening and nasty. I can’t see what they would gain from such a thing.

It is always possible that it wasn’t a scam per se and was genuine, but misdirected (i.e. wrong number).