Still Trying to Register!

John cannot seem to reply to your bank account question in the right place. When I went to open it, they needed proof of my means and as I had just arrived here, UK docs were all I had.

It's your call on that. My accountant put in RAM when I registered so RAM it is. I have no idea if any one of the chiicess is better thn the others.

Thanks Ricky - I've done it.

Can't believe this - it was the SS number on all the forms (at least online) that was stopping me.

CPAM and everyone else 'official' told me I had to register first then get the carte vitale and then register as an AE.

If only I'd known the 00000 trick before!!!!!!

If anyone can do me a blow by blow account of what I need to do next to complete all registrations then I'd appreciate it.

Or, if I sit back and do nothing - but going by what Gary says this might not be a good idea?

Gary, the URSSAF is just the centre for registration (or at least in the Cher region) You would have had to give your preference for health insurance cover when you joined?

Okay, talking to myself, but...

When I when to press submit it came up with the fact that I hadn't filled in the RSI Organisation (I KNOW - YOU wouldn't let me!!!!) But now it's let me have 4 choices:

UTIM

RAM

UMCAPI

HARMONIE

Suggestions as to which one is best?

Birth Certificate ! forget them, my son and I have got our CV we are both AE and used our PASSPORTS (as you had to use your birth certificates to get your PP) it states on the form you can use your PP but No one ever reads the info !! that was earlier this year.

Yes, in MM. An old pal is having a big bash on Halloween so can’t miss that. Might hit the Goat for Breakfast on Saturday. I’ll make sure to contact Richie or Jane.

Are you going to be in Mount Merrion? Enjoy the visit. I haven't been back in over a year with no intention of going in the foreseeable future. Love life here. If you see Richie, ask him does he remember his big sis!! He's been quite ill recently so not sure if he's out and about, but he mentioned your name months ago, and I never made the connection - that you were the same John S. he was talking about. Doh! Anyway, have a great time. Charlie Chawke has been winding me up on Facebook with photographs of his great breakfasts in the Goat.

Have a great trip and talk to you when you get back. xx

I’m in Dublin this weekend Sheila. I’m sure I’ll bump inti Richie on Sunday. Sny messages? :slight_smile:

Not really. There is your personal tax number, your social security number snd your company number. Just like the UK.

Why Sarah would any documentation from the UK have any relevance to opening a French bank account?

You are in France Karen. The French are “laid back” because they know that if they follow the process things do work. What you need to so is map out the excellent advice you are getting here into the steps you need to follow and then just execute. It will all fall into place.

Yes, France reminds me of the States but more natural. I.E. you walk into a shop and they greet you etc (not so in the UK granted, you could be invisible until you spend 3 figures!) It used to bother me, but I have noticed that I accept it calmy these days. It really is a case of getting use to things being different. I think on the whole I feel less stressed, so I cannot complain.

You are right, it is different but difficult to explain unless you live here. I am not complaining, I prefer here any day to the UK. I had temp housing here initially in a Gite and had Brit Ex-pat neighbours who were not that welcoming, but now I live annexed to a farm with 2 French neighbours and they have been very accommodating. I would recommend French neighbours over English any day!! It just takes a bit of hassle to get into their system!

Yes, but don't you think the blocking aisles and stopping to chat (apparently oblivious to those behind) is a good thing?

I think we have too many hang ups in the UK - we seem to critique everyone and everything.

I was talking to an English friend the other night and she was asking me what is different here and sometimes it can be difficult to explain. But I said when I went to the supermarket I'm usually English and pig-ignorant with it. I go charging around looking at no one and getting on with the job and then, usually, someone will try and catch my eye just to smile and say 'Bonjour.'

Okay, so I might see them again blocking the next aisle down but what the heck. The French look at each other, they smile, they speak.

I think they have slowed me up somewhat - I think it does me good.

I've never been to Italy!

geeze louise! 3 numbers? A whole extra department being created there then!!!

I think the French are numb to a lot of things. I think it is a case of what you are used to. Have you not noticed how they block the aisles in supermarkets, stop cars on the road to chat to pedestrians or other drivers oblivious to the chaos they cause? It really is a way of life. The French system I believe is based on a very socialist one, therefore, once you are in - you're in. No need to worry. Personally, I believe, all this bureaucracy is just a way of making jobs for people. It is the same in India with their 'chitties'. Don't get me started on that one!!

I think laying back is the only way to deal with the processes here. I tried to open a bank account, showed them by uk bank statements, my last HMRC tax return etc, and still it was not good enough yet a simply 2 minutes conversation between the bank personnel and a local business person who was helping me set up here opened the account in minutes!! Who knows! But trust me, this is sublime compared to Italy!!

Nope. Two different numbers entirely. SIRET relates to business or self employed registration and must appear on allinvoices/correspondence.

You might pay tax in France but not be engaged in any business activity - you get a No Fiscal in such circumstances but no SIRET number.

What I want to know is, how do the French manage to be so laid back while dealing with this chaos - or maybe that's the reason, you get numb to it in the end!

I only registered back in July this year Karen, so I KNOW that it is possible without a SSN. Good luck, any probs, feel free to ask!! :-)

Isn't the Numero Fiscal the SIRET number?

In the UK, I had a number from the HMRC for self employment and then my NI number issued when I was 16. The NI number is the equivalent to the SSN I presume and the Numero Fiscal is the HMRC type number.

So, if I manage to get this form filled in over the weekend - what type of number am I going to end up with and will I need to then apply for anything else? Poor Gary got lost in the frenzy and it might help him to know.