Stop The Boats

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I believe Turkey is becoming less willing.

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Oh dear and we’ve only just got rid of Truss

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Plenty of time for a couple more changes yet!

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…given Sunak’s present performance :wink:

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Indeed Diana, with the continuing absence of any “legal” routes I think France should actually facilitate their passage to the UK.

Plus, there is no refugee/migrant crisis in the UK, it’s just a political football. And of course football is now also a political football :joy:

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brilliant!

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150K stuck in the asylum processing system isn’t a crisis so France should help more cross the Channel so they go straight into hotels and B&B’s for months on end, what a dreadful attitude to people trying to make a new life for themselves. Meanwhile on the France/Italy border French police are hauling migrants off trains as soon as they hit French soil only to stick them on trains going in opposite direction, not football obviously but just ‘pass the migrant parcel’.

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I think that’s a separate issue. She seems to have clumsely got herself into hot water for pointing out that Boris Johnson’s wife beating, soon to be enabled father had only broken his wife’s nose once.

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Ahh Tim, I think you’re falling for the Tory’s let’s blame the victims line.

The crisis that exists has nothing to do with the folk crossing the channel, it’s all to do with Tory led Home Office incompetence in processing refugees. Last year “only” 45K came across the channel, where did the other 100K that, as you put it, are “stuck” in the system come from? (hint: check out what some of the few that did make it out of Afghanistan are saying). You should look at the HO performance, it’s a shambles. But to admit that would be to admit that Teresa May, Amber Rudd, Sajid Javid, Priti (sic) Patel and Suella Braverman and their half-arsed, populist policies have failed.

And as for what’s happening on France’s borders, if it wasn’t for Brexit the UK could also be sending people back (see Dublin agreement). So, Brexit, sold on taking back control and stopping all those Johnny foreigners, has had the opposite effect. :joy:

However, I can agree with your sentiment “what a dreadful attitude to people trying to make a new life for themselves.” but that’s the Tory Party for you and in particular the foul crew currently running the show.

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What a stupid mess. Linaeker should have kept his opinion to himself, even if the Tories are a band of sinister twats. We don’t want to hear the opinions of sports presenters. I’d say he did it deliberately so as to attract a juicy contract from SKY or something (à la Top Gear).

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By posting on Twitter - isn’t this what he actually did? Only those who follow him get to see those opinions.

I think what he said was spot on and accurate.

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It seems only the gammons are displeased with Lineker’s post. Even the BBC seem now to have accepted his right to express his opinions.

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He’s back!

To be clear, using highly charged language to criticise government policy does breach the BBC guidelines, but only for those staff members who work for the corporation as journalists and whose job it is to hold politicians and others to account. If this weren’t the case, Alan Sugar would not be allowed to make awful social media comments and then go on to choose apprentices, and former Tory politicians such as Michael Portillo would not be able to travel round Europe at the expense of the licence-fee payer.

The cogent point is

Sport matters of course, but allowing a national broadcaster to hold politicians to account without cowering in fear and becoming the story itself matters even more. That’s the position we really need to get to.

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Yes but he signed a contract of impartiality. If you don’t respect a contract you get a smack on the botty.

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Really, you know what Lineker’s contractual terms are with the BEEB?

Reports today are that the settlement is a complete climb down by the BBC and no restrictions will be placed on his social media output.

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What’s your job that you think we should hear your opinion? I don’t know what his contract says any more than you do but, as a standard issue human being, Lineker has as much right to air his view as anyone else.
It’s up to each of us individually as to whether we want to listen to it.

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Yes, I do! It has been stated by the BBC that it was in his contract.

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That will make it true then :laughing:

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