A timely reminder about approaching dates…
Thanks for posting that - I’m particularly interested in the other bit as well - “use revenue corresponding to the UK tax year” coz I’m weighing up how to assess the UK rental income to declare. I’ve got a loss for UK 20-21 and 21-22 will be a profit to declare. So had in mind to hold off declaring  the loss in france 2021 and declare the UK assessed assessed profit 21-22 on the 2022 return next year. [which will include the previous year loss]
Makes calculation easy - but when I asked how to do this, forum members all said they do / maintain two calcs one for france, one for UK. Obviously stick to the same approach going forward…
Just wondering what the source of the screenshot was? Though happy for any more comments on approaches to declaring UK rent as well.
If you are referring to the post above this one (97) the source is moi. I wrote it from information generally available elsewhere and from the Fisc.
Is there some fault with the reference?
As for the disparity between UK and French tax return periods, you are quite rioght, you should not mix and match year on year. It is of course preferable to align the two periods - ie the UK one to the French perhaps given your French residency but that would require some simple maths to achieve and once its done (perhaps in a spreadsheet) maintaining the information thereafter should not present a problem. The same rules apply to the UK pension payments cycle and the Fisc are quite content with that and understand the issue (can’t speak for HMRC of course).
No probs at all with the reference thanks - just checking!
As for me, because I have lots of UK earnings for 2021 (lucky me but it doesn’t feel like it with the stress) it’s probably more beneficial to use the HMRC year figures - I haven’t done the maths though as tons of work and little time…
So good to have your reminder to focus on the deadlines!
Wow! Graham - thanks for that link. It may contain the remedy for my condition - rabbit-in-headlightsitis
My affairs are ridiculously simple but that doesn’t help me staring at the screen [online form], staring at The Connexion’s guide, staring out the window into space, in a state of stasis.
I really have no idea where to even begin. I think I’d better book a RdV chop-chop.
Have you looked through my guide link here ?
You might find it of help at least to begin with particularly if your affairs are simple…
@graham info/link is brilliant, but if you still feel the need, I can confirm the Tax Folk are very helpful and understanding… face to face is a friendly thing and they know folk are upset/worried etc and behave/react accordingly to soothe and inform as painlessly as possible.
if you can get a timely appointment…
I went to the tax office this morning. Arrived just after 8.30 (office opened at 9) left at 9.20. All sorted. Had to do it in french as I was dealt with by non english speaker, we managed okay. Just have your figures ready. Local authority pension lump sum to be included with other government pension income (according to Guingamp office). Not interested in UK house sale, said no action to be taken as far as France is concerned. I would definitely recommend going to the tax office. No need for other help unless your affairs are complex.
They are taking folk on a first come, first served basis… on certain days… as well as the separate “appointment” system.
It should be detailed on the “websites”.
Those who queue will be seen, but they need to be patient and have a strong bladder.
just to add to the pain
Must confess, when I got there and found I was so very early… I did panic at the thought of hanging around for so long… ridiculous of course, since I didn’t “need to go” until we got back home some hours later…
But I was No2 in the queue and by the time the office opened, the queue was very long…
and it was even longer, when I left… ooops
All very reassuring. I was getting a bit stressed by this.
Things have been made rather sweeter by winning a voucher from the checkout in Eric the Cleric which I immediately parlayed into a bottle of Grant’s Standfast Scottish amber nectah!
As freelance all my working/not working [resting, darlings] life, I have had my tax done by an accountant. Since the termination a/cs of my boatyard biz* in '99 I have had no dealings with the taxman other than an annual Billy Doo telling me what my derisory [all that ‘resting’] pension will be.
- The accountant was very tardy with this. Weeks went by and threatening letters came , from HMRC to me, as the responsible person.
At one point the acnt told HMRC that their building was being rebuilt and all client records were inaccessible in a basement under a building site. When HMRC announced to acnt that he would be fined £300/day from beginning of following week if docs not to hand, suddenly they were.
The tax office in Vire is
From the point where the person is shown striding out, it is all UP A VERY STEEP HILL. I won’t need the WC. I’ll need a defibber.
No ticketing system? Even the Spanish offices which deal with residency applications [are Police stns in fact] dish out tickets. The queues are still in three figs.
Let’s make it 11’s.
Pack a picnic and stop for lunch on the way…
The date for filing paper returns (typically first year filers) has been put back to 31 May, according to the Economy Ministry today.
Sorry all I’m doing my first Tax paper return - we arrived in France Oct 21 - do I just put my salary as from Oct to Dec 2021? for the french tax year?
where do I find out to send them is it the most local tax office?
Hi @TukkerAA and welcome to SF
Yes, assuming that you arrived in France in Oct 21 with the intention of residence, that would be correct.
Again, yes to the local tax office - the competent tax office is the one with jurisdiction over the location of your residence .
just curious, is this a UK salary - are you a frontalier? If so I can share with you what I did in 2020 (just one month - December)
Yes UK salary as frontalier
I read that as a Footballer! - money wouldn’t be an issue in this case!