Good grief… that’s appalling. While I was quietly queuing the other week, I saw people arriving to pop their envelope through the special “flap” in the wall of the building. In fact, the gentleman who was No1 in the queue , was kindly pointing it out to those who dithered…
Mind you, queueing here is only allowed on certain mornings and appointments (gold-dust) are only on certain afternoons… but it’s obviously better than in your area.
I visited the tax office (see post above) yesterday for my maiden voyage as a French tax payer, clutching a signed paper return to hand over, and a form DT1 for them to sign to enable me to receive my UK pension without UK withholding tax. The latter form, despite being entirely in English, was signed and stamped without comment (as had been predicted/reported by others on SF).
However the tax lady told me off that I hadn’t used the ‘right’ annexe to report salary that was exempt from tax in France (under the UK/France treaty). This was the final month of salary for an employment carried out entirely in the UK, earned whilst UK resident but paid shortly after arrival in France. I was told that if I was going to file a return, it had to be on the correct annexe. Fair enough. I had struggled to decipher the treaty article and guidance notes from the French tax office, in particular the filing treatment for exempt salaries, and had basically ‘shoehorned’ the number into what appeared to be treaty exempt income. There is no real effect on my French tax liability as there is no other income, bar 50€ of interest.
However she told me that treaty exempt income such as salary from the US, UK, Australia, Canada etc is reported on 2047, and France treats that income as if its suffered French tax equivalent to the liability it would have incurred in France, as long as it’s been taxed overseas. To my mind that didn’t sound like exemption, but a warning look from my wife sitting alongside me strongly suggested not pursuing this technical line with the tax lady! As many have said on SF, she then fetched the right annexe, 2047, showed me what to fill out where, I signed it then and there and added it to the return I’d just handed her. I can’t imagine either HMRC in the UK or the IRS in the US (both of whom I’ve regularly dealt with) being remotely as helpful.
Glad you had a good experience… I keep saying that the Tax Folk are NOT Ogres… 
I assure you it is… the underlying question is whether the French tax system should compensate a tax payer for excesses of tax demanded from a different State.
Initially, it was constructed that way but the change came when Gordon Brown was the UK Chancellor and the anomaly (which gave an improper financial advantage) was fixed both ways in the DTT (UK/FR FR/UK). I can’t speak for the US IRS.
I wasn’t intending to try it. I was just curious if anyone had been late and they were really so strict.
I was quoted an exchange rate of 1,14989 by the fisc, so I shall take advantage of it!
I suggest that how the Tax Folk will deal with folk depends on the circumstances around the delay/lateness.
Anyone who is having difficulty doing a paper return and can’t get an appointmen and fears it will arrive late as a result… . I suggest the person write/phone and explain the problem.
That way, at least, both sides know what is going on. In any important situation, I always ask for the name of the person with whom I am dealing… and note it in my records (along with a resumé of our conversation)
On the otherhand I know folk who have submitted on time for years… .yet omitted to declare something … an unfortunate misunderstanding rather than deliberate fraud/avoidance. Tax folk were very understanding and did not drop on them from a great height or fine them. phew
Anyone having troubles on-line declaring… send a message through one’s personal page on the impots gouv fr site… let them know what’s going on chez-vous.
I didn’t think for one minute you would being as you are, a responsible member of French society 
Can anyone advise - we took the tax paper forms to the impots office but the lady said we also need some other paperwork:
attestation de depart de l’ancienne residence a l’etranger
What would this be? Customs declaration? S1?
Thanks
perhaps this - or including evidence of your date of leaving the other country to live in France…
At least you’ve handed in some paperwork and got it there before the deadline …
Everything else can follow on… gradually.
Just realised 1.49 is about 35 cents above the current GBP / euro rate?
would you mean 1.14989 ?
Yes
This was what they reckoned was the average rate for 2021.
Blimey, I’ve done myself then because I declared at 1.17. Good job it doesn’t matter then as even that does not get us above the magic number.
This thread is an annual treat like Beaujolais Nouveau. No one will know until now, it was looking for advice on how to fill out my parents tax declaration that I first stumbled upon SF via this thread. Thoroughly enjoying this year’s ‘season’ and happy to have just this evening submitted mine and dad’s. I think that deserves a beer!
@graham sorry to be a plonker but I’m over tired and over stressed and just want to get this damn thing in 
is it Intérêts et autres produits de placement à revenu fixe where I put my princely 25 euros of interest earnt in Oz? I’ve got myself in a state after days at it and am questioning everything! 
Ignore me @graham it seems the little print out I have in my folder is indeed yours from a previous year so I can trust it! Now just trying to see if I can find the bit to put my ME income, couldn’t the other day. I fall into the Si vous n’avez pas opté pour le prélèvement libératoire d’impôt sur le revenu au titre de votre activité d’auto-entrepreneur, reportez le montant de votre chiffre d’affaires ou de vos recettes (si supérieur à “0”) dans les rubriques “régime micro” des écrans suivants. Perhaps I hadn’t gone far enough before giving up!
Help please someone! I have now been all through again and I can’t find where to put my ME income! If I had opted for the prelevement it is clear and easy but it specifically says not to use that bit as I haven’t
Si vous n’avez pas opté pour le prélèvement libératoire d’impôt sur le revenu au titre de votre activité d’auto-entrepreneur, reportez le montant de votre chiffre d’affaires ou de vos recettes (si supérieur à “0”) dans les rubriques “régime micro” des écrans suivants.
