Tax the super rich

You do realise that being socialist and being comfortably off are not incompatible, don’t you?

It seems the right wing expect left leaning politicians to be surviving on $1 a day and hand me down clothes or somehow they are not “authentically socialist”.

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5 homes, a 7 figure net worth and trust funds is very “comfortable”, isn’t it?

Especially for someone who says things like this:-

“We will not accept a society in which the very rich get richer, while almost everyone else becomes poorer.”

Hold the front page. Best selling author in well paid job makes money.

He’s remained consistent that higher earners, including himself, should be taxed more heavily. Presumably only right wingers should be well paid?

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Actually, I wanted it stay polite but you took it hard anyway.

I think you missed the part about seeking justice.

I’m a big fan of everyone paying their fair share.

Folks pointing at others and saying “I don’t feel you should have all that money” when they are minted themselves, not so much.

I’m not sure I’ve seen that from Sanders but I don’t disagree. His line seems to be that, if he pays more tax, everyone benefits

Funnily enough though I think most people’s definition of super-rich will include “not me”

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Super-rich is easy, trying putting a number to rich or wealthy.

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They’d better get a move on then if they’re serious about that

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Many restaurants charging 50% more today because of Bastille day, ironic when the reason behind Bastille and the revolution was because of the rich ellites starving the poor.

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No doubt they’re passing it on to the staff for working on a public holiday :thinking:

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There’s always a feeling that those above you in the food chain should pay more, but that ‘we’ pay enough. In western terms many of us are not wealthy, but doing ok, but in global terms just looking at total income (not in relation to COL) were all relatively rich.

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Good - maybe there can be accountability? Even among the super rich.

This has been needling me all day, so I will comment. My experience of ‘comfortably off’ socialists is that they have been very happy to be that way themselves, but would prefer it if other, less worthy types, weren’t so comfortably well off. Not all are like this by any means, and I know fewer like it now (possibly they keep quiet about political views now) but it has been a significant trend and one which turned me against Trades Unions.

So in my view (from an example I once knew) if you have a large oast house with grounds in Kent, a garage with 7 Lotus classics and enough assets to do anything your heart might desire then I don’t think you can have any real sense of social responsibility - if you did, you would be compelled to give away a substantial portion of your wealth. Such a person wouldn’t have to be ‘poor’ to claim to be a socialist, but for me, they need to have a lifestyle typical of ordinary people and redistribute their wealth to those who need it.

Multi-millionaire? You’re a socialist for other people while enjoying a capitalist lifestyle.

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I think the French football squad should donate all their wages to charity after tonight’s poor showing.

Mbappé already does, he has donated all his earnings playing for the French national team since he was first selected.
Not sure about the rest of the squad.

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I don’t think Socialism (https://www.britannica.com/money/socialism) as a doctrine is genuinely espoused to any significant degree any more. It’s certainly not a significant part of Labour Party policy, but - as evidenced by anyone in the Labour Party claiming to have made Labour “electable” - it seems that the main purpose of the Labour Party is simply to get the labour Party elected to government.

Capitalism, unlike Socialism, has been wildly successful pretty much everywhere it’s been attempted!

As for rich people who claim to be socialists, it’s difficult, as you and I know, to be well-off and to hold onto your radical principles. Wealth has an insulating effect, and so we tend not to meet the poor. And we tell ourselves that it’s the government’s responsibility to create equity and equality.

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Who would vote for a system that will make them less well off and benefit the undeserving?

Platitudes aside, people aren’t equal in their ability to manage their lives. How much should we try to oppose ‘natural selection’?

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Seems many are richer than they think!

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