You might like to listen to Dr Bryan Ardis 
Very relevant data from the UK stats.
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I have a lot of time for that doctor and have listened to quite a few of his presentationsā¦I believe the only strike he got against his channel (or might have been fb) was when he was looking into ivermectinā¦(is that what he means about antiviralsā¦???)
I have seriously raised eyebrows at the minute by all the negative ludicrous MSM propaganda articles/editorials around ivermectin (and all early treatments) by people who have never even treated a covid patientā¦
All the viral hoo ha about Joe Rogan recently recovered from covid in record time using ivermectin (also monoclonal antibodies and neutroceuticals) ā¦whatās all that aboutā¦??? All the negative divisive arguments now about whether heās right or left vaccinated or unvaccinatedā¦the reaction to his recovery is bizarre to meā¦
The Japanese man who discovered ivermectin won a Nobel peace prize along with the American who bought it to marketā¦itās on the WHOās list of essential medicines and is one of the safest drugs ever producedā¦
And hereās Dr Peter McCullough the most peer reviewed cited heart specialist globallyā¦heās treated lots of covid patients and faultlessly quotes all the literature and studiesā¦.
(As an anecdotal aside and at risk of everyone saying āwell how come youāre the only one who knows of anyone with side effects or how come youāre the only one who knows double vaccinated people who now have covidā¦ā
My pregnant daughter is working for a care agencyā¦she wonāt take the vaccine and wonāt take any Job where they insist she doesā¦
Sheās supporting a diverse range of people who need help in their own home for a variety of reasons but also covid recovered patients in their own home and recently she was shadowing and the nurse she was shadowing has a friend and a niece both vaccinated during pregnancyā¦one had a full term still birth and one has a live baby born with an abnormally large head)
Are we supposed to be impressed?
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Iām not and sheās notā¦trying to impress anyoneā¦
Who would we perceive to be most at risk to whoā¦.???
My unvaccinated pregnant daughter or the recently released from hospital covid recovered or the double vaccinated recently released from hospital covid recovered or the single vaccinated or the non vaccinated who all need support in their own homesā¦???
I hope all these people have a say as to whom they allow into their homes.
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So long as the people she is looking after are double jabbed then they, most of them would be OK statistically.
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one had a full term still birth and one has a live baby born with an abnormally large head)
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Both of which happen anyway. Whatās your point ?
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My mother is a house bound 87 year old who relies on carers to survive, I wouldnāt want your daughter going anywhere near her as she is a health risk.
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But Itās not on the WHOs list for the treatment of Covid though is itā¦
And the Japanese inventor certainly didnāt win the Nobel Peace Prize.
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However there is plenty of evidence based medicine that supports it use in reducing symptoms.
WHO dont have all the answers look back at their recommendations at the start of this issue, now done a U turn
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Well itās certainly true that clinical trials are ongoing but as yet no concrete evidence to support it. A wait and see scenario.
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Yes they do and I said beforehand and in brackets as an aside that it was anecdotal but at any one time how many of our friends and family have a pregnant woman in our midstā¦???
This was one nurse who happened to be working with my daughter and that was her experienceā¦.a friend and her own nieceā¦both vaccinated in pregnancyā¦,one full term still birth and one live birth where baby has an abnormally enlarged headā¦(blood tests being done)
She hasnāt got one. She takes unfortunate things which normally happen and lays them at the door of vaccines.
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Anecdotal is absolutely that. 20 years ago when I was busy being pregnant I was surrounded by pregnant women. I am sure @vero would say the same.
My own midwife had a full term still birth. It happens.
Nothing to do with vaccines.
I lost my third at five months. Again, it happens. And having spent time with geneticists after that who explained clearly and coherently why birth defects etc occur, I really wish you would stop peddling this utter SHIT.
If any one woman who has lost a child or given birth to a child with some kind of damage reads your twaddle and believes it is because they got vaccinated, that is one too many.
Please stop now.
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And had we not had āthe wait and see scenarioā then countless lives would have been savedā¦.and countless lives WERE saved by the doctors with boots on the groundā¦researching repurposed drugs and coming up with lifesaving protocolsā¦.
Dr Zelenko has been nominated for the Nobel peace prize by 150 doctorsā¦.he saved 7000 people with his early treatment protocolā¦
It seems that nothing will stop her.
She just carries on blindly and I totally agree, when you are pregnant you see pregnant women everywhere. It is one of those things. if you have a plaster cast it seems as though everyone has a broken limb too.
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My 83 year old disabled mother has district nurses twice a dayā¦twice a day well before covidā¦well before vaccinationsā¦and continuing to this day after covid and after being double vaccinated that have resulted in several almost 6 week hospital stays
My daughter who has just gained her batchelor of arts degree with first class honours has visited my mum her grandmother every weekā¦sometimes daily when release from hospital stays services were breaking downā¦.
My heart goes out to every woman who has experienced miscarriage (my daughter) or still birth (my extended family) we have those graves and memorials within our own family and their/our lost little ones in our local cemeteryā¦.
But this is not a vaccineā¦ā¦