UK driving licenses no longer valid in EU after Brexit?


(Paul Flinders) #1

OK, hopefully sanity will prevail and a deal will be struck but with the ultra Brexiteers still baying for a no deal this could be one to keep an eye out for.


(stella wood) #2

Hi Paul

sounds like now be the best time for Brits to change to French licences??


(Paul Flinders) #3

If you’re permanently resident then probably.

For us (I say us but are there many more than just me on the forum?) 2nd home owners it’s going to be a pain if the only way we can drive in France is to apply for IDPs every year.


(anon71231711) #4

It’s going to be a real pain for those that live in France but regularly fly back to spend time with family in the UK because from what I hear it’s next to impossible to get UK insurers to cover anyone with a non-UK licence. That could mean you won’t be able to drive family members’ cars in the UK.


(stella wood) #5

@ptf @Anna

Paul, Anna… I hadn’t thought of that… going back to UK… :frowning:

but what happened before UK joined EU… how did foreigners get on…


(anon71231711) #6

Taking a car abroad was quite a big deal for Brits prior to 1973 wasn’t it, you had to faff about with green cards and stuff. I suppose it was the same for foreign visitors, and if they immigrated they had to get UK licences. Also as I recall, you used to be able to insure UK cars for “any driver”, not sure you can do that any more? I get the impression that it’s named drivers only and they need copies of their driving licences. But that last sentence could be rubbish, I think that’s what I’ve heard people say but I wasn’t particularly taking note at the time.


(Mandy Davies) #7

Do you mean now or after Brexit? I’ve been back to the UK a few times since changing my licence to a French one and never had problems being added to my Mum’s insurance. She’s been with a few different insurance companies during that time as well.


(anon71231711) #8

Oh that’s good. I’d somehow got the idea that it was difficult now.


(Mandy Davies) #9

It may have been easier because each time it was for less than a week. Bizarrely, on one occasion she received a small refund of her premium because adding me reduced her premium. No idea why and she didn’t ask, just banked the cheque.


(Dominic Best) #10

Not necessarially. We might be required to change our licences within a given time frame after Brexit but is very unlikely that a UK licence will be removed from the list of licences that can be exchanged for a French licence. That has nothing to with membership of the EU, it’s more to do with the rigor of the test you passed.


(Sue Young) #11

Surely though if the EU did this then the UK would do the same. That would mean problems for any driver from the EU as well. You really think that would happen?


(Paul Flinders) #12

Who knows - the article was making the point that we have (hastily) signed up to the 1968 convention to try to make sure that British vehicle registrations remain valid and Uk driving licences can be used - at least with an IDP - post Brexit.

I’m assuming a deal will be done and it will include recognition of UK driving licenses but the situation is sufficiently volatile that I wouldn’t want to put money on it.


(anon71231711) #13

How do you mean, “if the EU did this”? :confused:
It’s not something the EU is going to “do”. It’s a potential consequence of the UK’s decision to leave the EU. The current agreements that make lots of things easy, will no longer be in place. So unless other agreements are made to replace them, then all kinds of things we take for granted now will potentially become more complicated or even impossible.


(Paul Flinders) #14

This seems to be a thing that Brexit supporters do not “get”. We are voluntarily pulling out of the EU and with that pulling out of all sorts of agreements from which we gain benefit as a member of that club - if we do not make separate arrangements to ensure that our drivers can drive our vehicles in the EU post Brexit, or or pilots can fly our planes it is not the EU “punishing” us - it is our own fault for not thinking it through and checking the parachute worked before jumping out of the plane.


(Simon Armstrong) #15

Just as an aside - I recently changed my knackered ‘legacy’ French licence for the EU card version - really easy online process via the ANTS website and replacement licence in my hands in 6 days.


(stella wood) #16

Simon… how did the photo bit work out. I would be thrilled to change my pink French licence for a card… if I can use a decent photo… :grinning:


(Simon Armstrong) #17

Really simple Stella - you either go to one of the Photobooths that give you an ID Code (i.e. instead of the actual photo - listed on the ANTS site) or you send your photo in by post with a downloaded form linked to your application ID. I sent the actual photo as our nearest 21st century booth is miles away!! Still got my new licence in 6 days!


(stella wood) #18

Yes… I meant… for taking the photo… can I look a little decent… my hair is long and if not pinned back I look like a smurf/beatnik or both at once… without my glasses… I am not necessarily staring in the right direction :laughing: and without a hint of a smile… I look nothing like me at all…:stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:


(Simon Armstrong) #19

LOL ! Stella I’m sure you’ll but just fine! In any case it’ll give the foncs a good giggle !!! :wink:


(Grahame J Pigney) #20

The headline on the newspaper article was misleading (which ones aren’t these days).

The advisory note that the EU issued is aimed at hauliers and commercial drivers, it doesn’t actually mention private drivers or privavtely registered vehicles.

Having said that, until the UK decides, and agrees with the EU, what the future UK/EU relationship will be we won’t know will or won’t be happening.

At the moment we don’t even know for certain whether the limited protections in so-called “phase 1” agreement will be implemented.