UK SIPP Suitable for French Residents

Hi All!

We finally have a SIPP that will take French residents.

  • Flexi drawdown to any bank account and doesn’t have to be a UK account.
  • Taxed PAYE but once a withdrawal has been made NT tax code can be applied and pension paid gross.
  • Part of UK pension transfer system Origo so very little paperwork.
  • Do not offer annuity unfortunately and I am still looking for someone that will offer this.

Costs

0.25% for the platform - (large pool of investment choice in clean, no commission funds, bonds and equities)

£125 per annum for the SIPP

Advice Cost - initial fee between 1% - 5%Max
Ongoing advice - 1% per annum

Advice is provided to each individual based on their circumstances and this solution might not be right for everyone.

There may be the option to withdraw the pension at a low tax rate in France and reinvest into an Assurance Vie or other tax wrapper.

For a no obligation call just book below… I think I’m full for the rest of the year but lots of space in January…

@Badger

Thanks for the heads up!

My research has made me understand a bit more about SIPPS. Neither of my pension fund holders will transfer to one of their products due to the non-UK resident thing.

Can you expand on what all that means? I’m guessing it’s a one off charge of 0,25% of the total funds invested, an annual £125 fee, a variable (depending on fund size?) one-off advice fee of 1%-5%, & a presumably optional ongoing advice fee of 1% of the fund (oris that withdrawals).

Not the case in this instance, the transfer is to another UK pension that allows transfers in using the Origo system so they cant stop it.

1-5% depending on the pension size… this comes from the pension on transfer.

0.25% is annual charge for the investment platform.

£125 is an annual charge for the SIPP reporting and admin.

You can add investment advice on a discretionary basis, on an advised basis or self execution. So 0% per annum up to 1% per annum.

All investments are clean share classes.

Understood.

…but 0,25% of what?

Understood.

Got it.

I’ve no idea what that means, Please explain.

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The value of the pension (e.g 100k pension would cost 250 per annum)

This means there aren’t investments available that advisers can use to earn commissions from either up front, trail commissions and exit fees. Sometimes advisers use different share classes to generate more commissions. The platform doesn’t allow any of these type of investments.

OK, makes sense. Is it always based on the initial pension value, or is it the size of the remaining funds i.e. if one draws down a large amount one year you’d reduce this particular annual charge?

Ah, great. A more honest approach.

Thank you so much for all this advice - it’s really helping me understand things.

No it’s based on the value of the pension not the amount invested. So if it grows to 500k the cost is 0.25%. It’s taken 0.0625% of the value every QTR.

No problem I’m trying to make the information more available so people can decide if they are interested and know the cost before they get in touch.

I, for one, would be very interested in more info.

Other questions that occur (having trawled many websites, some of which fail the competence test :roll_eyes:), are…

Does the product you are talking about charge for withdrawals? Your original charges list implies that it doesn’t.

Can you set up automated withdrawals?

Is there a minimum investment required?

In my case I could have payments made to a UK bank, in sterling. Does that help with charges at all?

Thanks again for your ongoing advice. If you’d rather I didn’t put all this in the public domain then please tell me. At this stage I’m guessing that others may find this conversation interesting.

No charge for a 3 days BACS payment also there is a max charge to buy and sell assets of £4 per trade.

Yes you can set up regular withdrawals and the minimum is £50k.

Yes it can be paid into a UK account in GBP, unlike other UK pensions this can be paid into any account that has your name on it like revolut.

If you plan to take regular withdrawals after you have a PAYE reference you can apply for the NT tax code to be paid gross and declare in France.

It’s great as if you have questions it’s likely that others might have the same ones so it’s really helpful… happy to have info out there. Allows people to make informed decisions without having to talk to an adviser…: I think in the main financial services haven’t got the best name after all the Uk scandals over the years.

Sorry, you’ll have to explain what that means.

So as a recurring (free) BACS payment?

This is where things fall apart - my funds total approx. £35,000. I could reluctantly move other savings to make up the minimum. Could I then withdraw the extra & put it back where it came from i.e. does the £50K minimum only apply to the initial investment?

That makes sense, & is covered in threads elsewhere on this site.

That’s very refreshing to hear. Previous experience has made me very averse to engaging directly with anyone offering pretty much anything. I like to see the facts in front of me & take my time with any decision, without the pressure of a salesperson. I suspect this view is shared by many.

Absolutely,
The best advice in all walks of life.

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When you have an investment fund and you sell it and buy another investment the SIPP charges you £4 per transaction

Yes no problem