Like this?
Though, theoretically this is a quadricycle with a narrow front track. Nevertheless this did enhance stability in the faster bends.
Hah, I only vaguely remember 10 bob, it was a note if I remember?
Yes, a 10 shilling note, replaced by the 50 pence coin before decimalisation i.e. for a while there was effectively a 10 shilling coin.
It was, and it was made up of four half crowns or five two bob bits or twelve shillings or twenty-four sixpenny bits (or tanners) or 48 thrupenny (now a crypto currency it seems) bits or 124 pennies or 248 halfpennies. I’ll leave out farthings 
This was a very good system for grading relations, a half crown tipping uncle was obviously a superior visitor to shilling aunt
Having had summer jobs waiting on tables and serving behind the bar at the end of the £SD era and before whizz bang electronic tills and having to add up large rounds of multiple drinks was wonderful mental exercise. As a little boy I was always a 100/100 on mental arithmetic (he writes proudly 
) but I do think that those “exercises” contributed to me having most of my marbles today (as far as I know )
2/7. See me after class…
Hmmm.
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Even I know that’s wrong, the clue is in the name
That one marble gone 
My Uncle Norman always used to give me a ten-bob note. 
By 'eck them were 't days…
The 10/- note was a rather unattractive brown thing, if you recall - and was always the most dog-eared item of currency as it was used so often.
You can buy fresh minty ones on Amazon for a mere £18.90 if you are so inclined…
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Why? They had a cute little Wren on them. 
Not to mention the 9 bob note, which meant something quite different. 
Oh dear
As I was heavily involved in the UK licence agreement and am still. I’m fairly well placed to answer your question.
Firstly does yours and your friends C1 have the same start date as B in column 10. If it doesn’t, if they are different dates then this category will be exchanged.
The grandfather rights has been put to bed, the French have ruled that they will not exchange grandfather rights, this was notified to us 10 July 2024 and you will find it confirmed on the UK Gov page that only categories where a separate test has been taken will these be transferred.
Living in France - GOV.UK
Have you actually asked for an extract of your driving rights from the DVLA, and no I don’t mean the D737 certificate or Check Code.
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Thank you for responding so promptly and with some concrete information.
My licence shows the start dates in column 10 of all codes as 02.07.76 with the prefix <, which I believe denotes ‘earlier’. I think everyone who passed a test before that date will have the same or similar date on their licence for all categories, as this is the date of computerisation of all licences is it not?
We have not requested an extract from DVLA we have only used the check code that you can download.
As we both passed HGV tests in the '70’s we are endeavouring to get copies of HGV employment from the only company that is still operating, Shirley’s Transport in Stoke on Trent. Hopefully they might retain records going back this far. In those days the HGV licence for which we passed the test covered any heavy goods vehicle with either class1, 2 or 3 licence designation. In those days there was no C or D class.
So, accepting your information, as we do, we hope that providing proof of employment as an HGV driver, for which we had to pass a test, may carry some sway with the french authorities.
Wiil they or won’t they? This is the big risk, as once the UK licence is submitted and a french licence is issued without the category there’s no going back. Your opinion here would be most welcome.
Yes < greater than means the DVLA don’t have the dates of these tests.
Do you also have C on your licence or just C1 ?
I’m guessing you didn’t keep your old red licence for sentimental reasons.
Unless your old company can actually provide official evidence of passing your C (equivalent now) then France won’t accept a company attestation, it has to be an official licence document.
Thanks for the information Kim. My friend is in contact with our old company to see if they made copies of our HGV licences. I think this is his last hope of coming to France with his motorhome.
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If he’s still in the UK and they can’t find evidence he still has the option of doing the C1 test in the UK, this will be transferred but must be exchanged within 12 months of validation of his visa, if he arrives on one.
The reason being is now he will have passed his test in a non-EU country and these rules for that category taken after 01/01/2021 apply.
Thanks Kim, will pass that along but doubt he’ll want to go that route at 74, as it’s a 4 month course and expensive. Better if he foregoes the motorhome, but he won’t, as it’s his pride & joy.
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Completely understand. Blame those who voted for Brexit as this is direct consequence.
It will be a while yet to see if France takes it up, but it may well be a directive from the EU so they’ll have to take it on, that B categories are being uplifted to 4200kg, not sure if this will help, but it’s because many electric cars are pushing standard cars into the C1 bracket.
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Tankers, if my ailing memory serves me still?
Shirleys had flats and tankers when I was there in '70’s. Tankers appeared to be more profitable so they focussed on tankers for the future.
Can’t wait to see you on Mastermind… “and my specialist subject is…”
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