UPDATE 10th December: Confinement/Deconfinement

Some good common sense from Ian Dunt …

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I shall have my children at home for Christmas, and my service civique girl from work if she can’t go home to Germany, and the language assistante if she can’t go home to Spain. I usually have one or more waifs and strays at Christmas, there are lots of us so a couple more makes no difference.

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How will you ensure that you are safe?

Sue I go to work every day and I am in very very close proximity to hundreds of people every day (by which I mean well under a metre away for a couple of hours at a time and in corridors and staircases actually squeezed up against them) - so I really don’t think having a dozen tops at home is any bigger risk.

And I don’t have any choice about it so apart from maskwearing+hand-cleaning I can’t do anything so i might as well get on with it without turning into a hypochondriac.

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We are singing from the same page on the waifs and strays front. I can’t bear the thought of people being alone and miserable at Christmas.

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What you all need is one of these so that you can go and huddle round it whilst eating your turkey!

Joking aside - absolutely essential for safer socialising!

I think it’s much easier for a retired couple in a small village to restrict their contacts - just go out shopping once a week, and perhaps to the baker every morning and a short stroll in the afternoon. For working people it’s very different, and since risks have to be taken on a daily basis then there’s little logic in suddenly expecting a different behaviour. And for those with fragile mental health then this needs to be considered.

I was reading this morning an argument that the priority for vaccines should be based on the number of contacts rather than age. Old people can carry on at home as they are at present, but supermarket cashiers should get protection sooner.

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heartily agree with that idea… our Communal Workforce including our school (of course) , face “covid” every day… they have had positive cases … despite them taking all the precautions…

Stands to reason, multiply the contacts and you multiply the possibilities of transfer… so I would be very glad for them to be given as much (safe) medical assistance as possible.

probably not.
We must be so careful.

why are the “social distances” (whatever)… being adhered to in primary schools and not higher up the education ladder… ???

Why are you being put at risk, when surely something better could be organized.

(of course, I can only speak of the 4 primary schools in my area, but I’m assuming that other primary schools will be doing likewise)…

EDIT: Vero… I thought you were in education… but maybe you aren’t… but, in a way, the question still stands… why are you in crowded situations… ?
Whatever, I feel for you… keep safe.

I teach in lycée, which are obv magic places - we are carrying on as usual as far as classes are concerned, there is theoretical distancing but in fact there is no distancing because you can’t move walls.

As we all wear masks all the time, even if there’s someone actually seething with covid in a class they are not counted as a cas contact and so we carry on as usual. The same person, once off the premises, can be considered a cas contact and everyone in their vicinity will be told to quarantine EXCEPT their school friends or teachers.

No I don’t understand either.

We should be bottling the air in our classrooms and giving it to people as it clearly has supernatural properties :thinking:

good grief… my thoughts are with you… :crossed_fingers: :crossed_fingers:

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Unbelievable :roll_eyes: :roll_eyes: :roll_eyes: :roll_eyes: :roll_eyes:

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Never mind about the gatherings and the fun which Christmas time brings think about our duty as tellurians.

I am learning that crisis has hit our closest hospital and one third of the staff are positive for covit.

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Yes Barbara we do have a duty to protect each other and I think the vast majority try to respect the protocols.
My DIL is a nurse in A&E / COVID wards in our local hospital and reports very low numbers of positive cases within the staff so it’s obviously a regional thing.

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“sans changement du lieu de résidence”

is an interesting little detail on the 20km/3 hour “exercise in the fresh air”… :thinking:

Yes Barbara - a great topic of conversation among the young people on Friday, quite a few are wondering about staying at home because they are scared (of catching covid, of taking it home and giving it to their family…). Not something 17/18/19 year-olds generally need to worry about.

Mmm not sure Vero. I remember my last year at school in the mid 60s - all 17-18-year olds and the discussions about going on ban the bomb marches. There was some real fear through that era as well.
I think these days there is also real concern about climate change among that age group.

These young people are aware of the severity of this virus but what can be done at the hospital.

But that to me seems qualitatively different from fear of physical illness in yourself and the personal responsibility of infecting and perhaps killing members of your family.