Vote Reform?

I wonder if that would apply to state pension too (even if it’s fully paid)?

He might find that he has upset persons he did not mean to do so.

Reciprocity.

Well apparently they have been reclassified as a benefit.

Where did you see that Grignard, please? Or is it that pensions are also paid by the DWP?

No reclassification necessary. They have always been a benefit.

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Except when it was conceived as compensation.

No.

apparently I need more characters to post.

Easy to say, hard to achieve. The withdrawal agreement has reciprocal social security coordination with each of the EU countries, so lots of renegotiation not for Farage to impose unilaterally.

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Correct.

Reciprocity.

To correct myself, if Fartrage withdrew “benefits” to EU citizens then the like will be applied to UK citizens.

I could hurt some UK citizens.

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It never was, unless you have a reliable reference to support your argument.

See: The National Insurance Act 1946 Part II (benefit), section 20&21.

Definition is small beer, but will withdrawal of your ‘benefit’ be small beer.

Withdrawal of my other nations pensions is significant to me, but my UK pension, when I qualify will be an announce.

More waffle from Farage. Not worthy of comment. Badenoch and himself trying to out outrage one another. It’s pathetic.

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It would be better to hear him admitting that Brexit has caused so many of the problems with identifying and repatriation of illegal immigrants .

He claims, Brexit failed because theTories didn’t negotiate it properly. Obviously ignoring the evidence that it was always going to leave the UK worse off.

But those would be Reform voters aren’t interested in economics. They don’t understand that the UK needs immigrants to grow economically and to pay their pensions.

There are still some people who believe Farage is working class and that he’s looking after their interests. I have no clue how they arrived at this belief, he only has to open his great fowl mouth for anyone to know he’s not of humble origins.

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Farage wanted the sort of Brexit where the UK was separated from the continental shelf, floated across the Atlantic, parked somewhere by Miami and officially inaugurated as the 51st state. Of course he is unhappy with the actual result.

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Regarding the “Benefit” label, all the documentation I received from DWP prior to September 2016 referred to the sums invoved simply as “State Pension”. In September 2016, the letter I received did mention the word benefit about half way though.

From 2017, my annual letters were entitled “General Increase in Benefits” and no mention of the word “pension” at all.

Because a gt many of his appearances are in pubs, pint in hand, guffawing away. And being MP for ‘Saarffend’ adds to the effect.

The Brexit vote showed that there is a profound ignorance about Britain’s place in the world, Europe in particular. @billybutcher’s comment is spot on.

I recall a C4 doc “White Tribe”, presented by Darcus Howe, the Trinidadian. After the episode featuring Birmingham he conluded that most of working class English wanted to be American.

The supporters of Trump and the supporters of Farage are cut from the same cloth.

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Clacton, but the difference is fairly academic. :smiley:

Wikipedia has this to say about the constituency of Clacton:

Electoral Calculus categorises the seat as being part of the “Strong Right” demographic, those who have fiscally conservative views on the economy but are also fairly nationalist and socially conservative, alongside strong support for Brexit.

Clacton is also, in general, highly deprived, in terms of employment, income and education, when measured comparatively with the rest of the UK, with 64% of the constituency being impoverished…

In addition to this, the latest government labour data has also revealed that economic inactivity in Clacton is at 46.8% – more than twice the 21.7% UK average.