Iāve heard those conspiracy theories and no idea.
Nor I but no smoke without fire as is often said about other parties. Beside he didnāt look really rattled
I donāt know, I thought he looked quite startled initially and then visibly relaxed when he saw that it was basically harmless.
If it was staged then itās worked very well for him and, if it wasnāt, then the activist has helped him enormously as the whole shirt sleeves rolled up thing made him look lot more human.
indeed it is often saidā¦ in the big world and also closer to homeā¦ here in our own small worlds.
It is a very damaging phraseā¦ and bandied about far too freely/blithely in my opinion.
Lives have been ruined due to false rumoursā¦
It seems to be something in human-nature which canāt quite accept the proof that something might really be falseā¦ OK some will accept it and someā¦ well, they mumble on āah wellā¦ no smokeā¦ā with no basis other than their own prejudicesā¦ and the false rumours/lies go round and round.
ghastly
I feel strongly about this as I know of a historical case which had a sad outcome and no, Iām not going into detail.
Of course, others are free to disagreeā¦
Frankly, I donāt think heād be bothered with such dramatics. āJCB driverā Johnson, yes. āLook Iām driving a tank in a Maggie Thatcher outfitā Truss, yes. But boring (boring is good BTW) old Keir?
Sorry, the suggestion that anyone, and particularly someone as risk-averse as SKS, would stage a stunt like that for so little gain and so much potential loss if discovered is a complete non-starter.
Is it? You are so willing to believe that abut one prerson yet not another??? My OH saw the guy talking to Stamer in the pub before this happened
BTW what is SKS?
Sir Keir Starmer
My OH saw the guy talking to Stamer in the pub before this happened
That is quite possibleā¦ does not mean SKS knew himā¦ nor that anything was plotted between them.
but, seriously, if your OH has information, it might be useful if he passed it on to the appropriate authoritiesā¦
How long before, which pub, details would be helpful
My OH saw the guy talking to Stamer in the pub before this happened
Thatās a detail that you didnāt mention before.
Letās assume (a) your OH is a reliable witness and (b) he actually saw, and wasnāt mistaken, SKS speaking to the delegate who later staged the protest.
In a pub. A public house. In plain sight, apparently, so not only your OH but anyone else - including Press - could have seen it.
I imagine you can see why that makes the idea of a setup even less credible.
Crikey didnt know he was titled. Odd for a left winger. Rich then?
That is a bit fierce. Are you saying ordinary people are lying? The guy was talking to the person you call sks
Crikey didnt know he was titled. Odd for a left winger. Rich then?
Hereās a bit of background: Keir Starmer - Wikipedia
That is a bit fierce. Are you saying ordinary people are lying? The guy was talking to the person you call sks
Iām not saying anyone is lying.
I explained why the theory of a setup is improbable, and even more improbable given what Old Herbert says he saw.
You donāt actually need to assess the truth of Obadiah Henryās evidence if the assumption that itās true makes the conspiracy theory even less credible!
Crikey didnt know he was titled. Odd for a left winger. Rich then?
Some people actually get honours for work they do
Few barristers are skint.
Ah he is a barrister then?
Whatwork did he do to get the sir?
Aaah the truth aka Meghan then?
Well this has become another dumpster fire of a thread. Not that Iām complaining, itās very entertaining It really does read more like Reddit than SurviveFrance at times! I blame the āordinary peopleāā¦which I guess makes us all extraordinary if weāre not amongst them!