What some people will do for an iPhone 13 🙄

I like Apple products but the cost for a top spec phone is mad, I’ve got a 1st Gen SE which was only £270 and I wouldn’t want to pay much more a replacement.

Chinese Man Who Sold Kidney To Buy iPhone, iPad Now Bedridden.

Well at least he has the iPad to keep him amused and the iPhone to keep in touch.

I wonder if this also applies to Europe sales?

Yes, there’s no charger with iPhones anymore, just a cable. I’m sort of in favour of that really, I’ve a box full of chargers for devices that died long ago and miles of useless cables with defunct connectors.

I need dual SIMs so up until last year I used a OnePlus but with virtual SIM availability I bought an iPhone mini and it’s great, all the functionality I need and it fits into my pocket, but I charge it wirelessly.

However, from now on I’m not going to buy anything that isn’t USB C (the iPhone 13 isn’t :rage:)

surely then John, the honest thing to do is for Apple to ask the consumer (a simple check box would do) whether or not they want the charger with the item being purchased?

I think they see the charger as a commodity Graham, while the bloody cable is Apple. Maybe when they move the phone to USB C they won’t even ship that. I also like the trend of selling power tools now without chargers or batteries. De Walt drills (and other tools) used to ship with two batteries and a charger and I’ve a bunch of unused batteries and chargers. And now the design of battery for has changed. So I’d prefer to unlink how many chargers or batteries I buy from the number of devices I have.

I just wish connections weren’t changing every 5 minutes - also have a heap of chargers and cables that I’m about to bin - just imagine if there was a simple standard that all manufacturers followed - how efficient, what cost savings and how much waste reduction there would be!! Many years ago visiting Russia, I noticed how standardized everything had been during the communist era - even down to buildings e.g is it a type A, B, C……. Chargers and cables = a major opportunity for manufacturers!

There is now I think, USB C is becoming universal.

Ummmm​:thinking::thinking::thinking:

Not going to happen as Apple iThing retail boxes have a polythene wrapper to prevent tampering.

The future of charging, or powering, of devices?

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Bonzo stop watching this stuff. It’s a joke. It’s the latest version of…

Why, in the name of goodness would you embed a fast evolving motherboard into a desk?

I wasn’t looking at this in terms of DIY, I was wondering if what was shown in the video was something new and maybe coming our way soon. Is such wireless power, shown in the video, technically possible?

*Have since found this video…released 4 months ago.

I would just love to have my computer comfort zone cable free, and not constantly aggrevating myself - being very untidy - looking for a charger. Wouldn’t you like to have such a setup? I would.

What’s the black wire on the right hand side of the desk? Looks like a cord to me…

Seriously, there’s a whole range of office desks with cable management trays at the back allowing you to basically have just one mains cable and a at5/6 running out the back to their respective sockets.

I think that cable powers the table, only the table, which in turn powers all devices sitting on the table. No other cables, connectors, sockets or chargers.

I think this table is radically different to the range of office desks you referred to.

I get that, I’m just not sure I want my body that close to one big wireless charging pad.

Is it even pacemaker safe?

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From what I gather this type of charging table is new to the market after 8 years of research. I’m sure something obvious like effects on pacemakers and the like will be considered in its further development. There would be no end of legal ramifications otherwise.

Aren’t arguments still going on about the effects of smartphones and all such devices being so close to our ears, eyes and brain?

Yes, because there’s various studies into long term effects of non-ionising radiation and how effective SAR limits are.

Before I left, Apple had automated a lot of voice calls with robotics placing phone held in artificial hands against artificial heads (made of materials which mimicked the radio frequency blocking and absorbing properties of human bone and tissue) for extended call testing.

Two benefits of this were a great increase of result correlation globally and testers not having to sit in a van making voice calls for 8 hours straight.

I know I’m a sample size of one, but one of the early Motorola 3G phones (V975?) I had to test for 3UK made the muscles under the pocket I carried it ache after an hour or so.

Nothing from any of the other mobile manufacturers ever did this before or since.

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