Whew - What a relief!

Absolutely, I have no idea what cargo shorts are, so hardly likely @kirsteastevenson to be searching for them. Shorts are shorts, trousers that stop above the knee, that’s all. I have 3 pairs, all have 4 pockets, one is elasticated the other 2 have belts, What more do I need to know? Nothing. :joy:

Oh, and I wear them fom May to October, or later, the rest of the time I have 3 pairs of unfashionable jogging longs.

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For me that might as well have been written in Klingon.

Whilst I have no specific problem with some people creating the looks that then filter down into mass market clothing I do have a massive problem with fashion trends that fuel the wasteful (& exploitative) disaster that is the fast-fashion industry. An item of clothing needs to be worn a lot more than once.

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I thought it was Klingon. :astonished: :rofl:

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In the 1990s I kitted out my employees with tee shirts, fleece and all weather high viz coats. My high viz coat still serves me well when damp gardening and the fleece when cold and dry.
Best of all are my ‘fruit of the loom’ tee shirts of which I have 2. They have been washed 1000s of time in the last 25+ years and still worn almost daily.
Only problem now is my wife insists I change into something less faded when venturing beyond the gate.

Quite so.

I think that a large part of he disposable clothing issue today is not only the media and social media fuelled obsession to be on trend, it is that the clothing is being made so poorly in order to be sold cheaply, that it barely lasts one wash.

The days when they made things to last of better quality have been replaced in a throw away society. Classic style and quality is still available but tends to cost a bit more. However, if you amortise the initial cost over the length of time you use a thing, then often in the long run buying quality pays.

At least it does with clothing!

I’ve had several of those ‘Fruit Of The Loom’ tees via a couple of different companies, but unfortnately they only lasted a couple of years before going in holes. But I would agree that it’s better to avoid the super-cheap stuff and seek out the better made clothes.

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And there’s these…

Saved by the nags’ heads :grin:

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Absolutely agree - two separate examples from the Internet this week/

Firstly I received a history of the Hawaiian shirt from my Atlas Obscura feed

It was personally interesting because I have quite a few (though not enough) and I’d noticed that the colours don’t really fade and that the white areas remain very white. Anyhow, apparently the first shirts were made in the 1930s from imported kimono fabric (and have Japanese designs whereas the patterned shirts I buy have designs from the 1950s that were created by local designers, but are still printed on very high quality Japanese cotton - and unlike cheesy Western copies, they’re cut loose and the pocket’s pattern always aligns with that of the shirt.

I buy these 1950s designs brand new, but have a series of filters, only floral indigenous plants and flowers, never cheesy eg. surfboards stood up in the sand , ukuleles, palm trees silhouetted against tropical sunsets and very definitely not female dancers in huli-huli skirts (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zqzvc7iyDg) We’ve come a long way since then!

Secondly, Maison Tuffery in the Cevennes, whose clothes I’d love to buy, because they tick boxes like local, high quality, well cut, but unfortunately ‘not very expensive’, e-mailed me about their new online facility https://www.ateliertuffery.nopli.eu/ whereby one can sell s/h Tuffery clothes through the Tuffery website

I lost my wallet early in the pandemic, mainly no doubt because of the change of routines. When was it? I searched relentlessly. Had it been stolen? Had it been dropped outdoors and taken? I contacted all thje card issuers and got new cards, a major task… Last January I looked out a rarely-used jacket…and discovered it in a pocket…

Sadly one of my cards has evidently become listod now on a security list - I can use it in person, but onliine it is always rejected.

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That’s a dangerous one! When backtracking, one can so easily overlook unusual exceptions to routine…

Japanese designs are wonderful! 🪭

Interestingly, while in HK I learned why the Japan made Sony radios and TV we bought in the eighties had lasted over 20 years. It was because early Japanese brands were made in Japan and actually built to last. Making the highest quality was their way to conquer competition in the market. Make-do-and-mend is a very long tradition in Japan.

Sadly, most Japanese brand electronics are no longer made in Japan but in China, instilled with less longevity.

Or your kids, after the forty-second ‘are we there yet’ . . . . . . and before any outraged parent replies, I mean properly secured on the roofrack . . . . :crazy_face:

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@drmarkh

You seem to have been in the wars recently what with the car and wallet etc, are you now well known down the cop shop ?!

Glad all wars seem averted, and your wallet post a timely reminder to consider / review action plans (read disaster recovery) for when it comes round… even though I initially thought it was ‘Whew what a relief I don’t have cargo shorts’

One takeaway I have is don’t keep things in the wallet one doesn’t need - e.g. I have never kept my CDS in the wallet - it only gets extracted from the safe for trips to officialdom. And the CV too. And I’m now thinking to remove the driving license from it too.

This in contrast to some posters who seem to have every existential document in their man bag - from passport down.

There may be a downside to ‘lightening the load’ (read risk exposure) - e.g. I read that if stopped on the street some ID is expected (not credit card?) and maybe one needs one’s CV on one at all times in case of being run over… or the driving license if pulled over…

But maybe not - fortunately I’ve never been stopped except once to say ‘put on a mask’ , or been run or pulled over.

I’d like to canvas opinion here, what are peoples opinions on the minimum docs to pack in a wallet, apart from means of payment?

When out and about I carry credit card some cash, when driving docs for the car and driving license. When away from home for work or holiday all the above as well as ID carte vitale. If abroad passport and international carte vitale ( I’ve forgot the name of it)

Wouldn’t dream of going out without CdS, driving license, carte vitale, mutuelle card, pacemaker warning card, blood thinner warning card, blood type card, photocopy of passport, photocopy of recent bill with address. Also carry two bank cards (some machines don’t like my C/A card so I always have my Barclaycard as back-up), Leclerc’s loyalty card, Gamm Vert loyalty card, garden centre loyalty card, hairdresser loyalty card.
But then I have a sensible sized handbag with a long handle which I put diagonally across my body so I’m not dragging down one shoulder.

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EHIC? Or the French version - yes, that too.

I carry everything all the time then I don’t have to remember what I need on each trip out. That said, most of it comes out if I am travelling back to the UK. A couple of times (once in Paris, once in London) I’ve had someone try to pickpocket me - fortunately both times I realised and confronted them and they fled.

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Ha, Blimey the full monty! I hope you remember clothes too :slight_smile:

I’m presuming not cargo shorts with the large capacity bag.

Must have been scary confronting the robbers. My sympathy and admiration, edit - forgot about the leclerc card, that will stay in - also the G20 card…

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Yes, the French version. :fr:

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I take less than that when camping :upside_down_face:. Have you considered a ruck sack :grinning:

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