We also got a Livret de famille when we were granted French nationality. Everything in one place, as Vero says.
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Our gite guests tell me our local town centre was heaving this morning as people headed for the polling station. Seems like itâs been happening elsewhere as well.
I wonder which way it will go?
Our tiny bureau de vote was over 50% at 15h when I went down. But the dustbin looked suspiciously the wrong colour!
RN seems to be on 34%. Could be worse I guess. But very depressing!
Here are the latest Ipsos estimates.
As always, these numbers should be treated with caution.
And here are the updated estimations from Ifop â with the caveat that these numbers do not necessarily represent the final outcome in the national assembly.
Elections #legislatives2024 : 1er tour
Les estimations Ă 21H30 (France entiĂšre)
RN et alliés : 33,5%
NFP : 28,5%
Majo . Présid : 22,1%
LR et DVD : 9,7%
ReconquĂȘte : 0,7%@IfopOpinion pour @TF1 @LCI pic.twitter.com/Kvqck3cTrg
We have a LdF which we were given when we married in the Minervois in 2004 but neither of us are French by birth nor naturalized so they do (or at least did) grant them to foreigners.
Is naturalization the same process as becoming a French citizen or is there a subtle (or not so) difference?
Generally one gets citizenship of oneâs home country at birth However naturalisatiob is a way to acquire citizenship at a later date
They give them to anybody married here (really married, not just some mumbo jumbo church stuff 
). The LdF is the culmination of the myriad of paperwork one supplies.
Therefore it is one and the same thing and therefore not a different process.
Thank you.
Not sure how it works in France but in the case of Irish citizenship, for example, there is a difference between citizenship acquired at birth and that acquired through naturalisation.
Naturalised Irish who live outside Ireland have to make an annual declaration confirming their intention to retain their Irish citizenship. If they donât, there is a risk it may be revoked.
No such requirement applies to those who are born Irish.
Just for clarity I do realise that there is a difference between citizenship acquired by birth and that acquired later in life.
I just wondered if there are perhaps two routes to acquire the latter but it seems they are one and the same in France.
Well there are different routes to acquiring it but once acquired it is the same thing. For instance it can be acquired through being the spouse of a French person, or after studying and graduating in France, or simply through having lived in France for 5+ years.
Doing a degree doesnât get nationality! Nor does living here. It just makes one eligible to apply. Only naturalisation through marriage is a right (but still have to speak the language).
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I think I can apply automatically via the grandchildren, that is what the prefecture told me.
Or through parentage.
Rubbish. My son did his degree and then a Masters degree on top and is a fonctionnaire and this had no bearing on his application whatsoever as an automatic route, incuding living here for 26 years already and doing all his schooling in France when he applied four years ago and was given citizenship this March!
Right 'nuff.
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Fair enough. I guess it depends what you mean by route. To me it is a different route because the conditions and justificatifs are specific to those who graduated with a higher degree after two years of study. They can apply after living in France for another 2 years, ie four years in totalas opposed to 5 years.
Une durĂ©e minimale de 2 ans de rĂ©sidence en France est exigĂ©e si vous ĂȘtes dans lâune des situations suivantes :
- Vous avez obtenu un diplĂŽme dâun Ă©tablissement dâenseignement supĂ©rieur français aprĂšs 2 ans dâĂ©tudes
I never said it was automatic. But he could have applied after 4 years as opposed to 5 without a higher degree. You think has no bearing whatsoever, I think it does have a small bearing.
The reality is that most are adjourned for a further two years for lack of profwssiknl insertion.