ANTS process

I couldn’t find anything here to help, which was a surprise. And I’ve found other online resources unhelpful.

Has anyone as a third country national registered their car with ANTS recently? I can get partway through, but then have to identify myself using another site (like tax, ameli, France identité) which I can’t do.

If you don’t have a French registered ID (eg tax number) then as I understand it, it’s not possible to access the ANTS site. The usual solution is to ask a 3rd party to do it on your behalf. Mark Rimmer seems to be universally recommended - especially for non-EU imports.

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Thanks, Brian.

I was looking for an alternative to an intermediary since I assumed it is possible to do it myself. Expecially since it seems to need to be done within a month!

My understanding was that you could get a tax Id even you’ve not yet submitted a tax return. I take it you’re not registered with CPAM either?

The process needs to be started within a month - the chances of it being completed within a month are low!

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No - I can’t do that either because in order to register for anything, you need already to be registered elsewhere!

It’s a bit Kafkaesque :slight_smile:

According to the tax website, you get a number by asking at your local tax office and can then create your on-line account. I imagine you already have some form of tax id by virtue of tax foncieres?

If you want to get access this is the procedure. People have reported success sending email to their tax office with a pdf of all the documents attched.

  • Vous ne possédez pas de numéro fiscal

La création de votre espace particulier nécessite la vérification de votre identité.

Vous devez nous communiquer votre état civil, une adresse postale et la copie d’une pièce justificative d’identité :

  • soit au guichet de votre centre des Finances publiques
  • soit par courrier postal

Votre identité vérifiée, un courriel vous sera adressé, vous indiquant que vous pouvez créer votre espace particulier en renseignant votre numéro fiscal et votre date de naissance, depuis la page d’authentification de ce site.

Vous devrez saisir ensuite votre adresse mail et un mot de passe que vous aurez choisi. Vous recevrez alors un courriel contenant un lien sur lequel vous devrez cliquer, dans un délai de 8 heures, pour valider l’accès à votre espace particulier.

Conservez vos identifiants (numéro fiscal et mot de passe) pour vos prochaines connexions.

(PS - I think the importance of having your core ‘dossier’ on paper and in digital form has been mentioned :joy:)

If you have friends with access to ANTS you can do it yourself by using their login then choosing the registering for a third party option. You do not need to pay somebody to do it for you.

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I’m currently trying to add my husband to our carte grise as a “co-titulaire”. The application has been submitted but I don’t yet whether it will be successful. The online procedure did not make much sense.
I was amazed however at how many French colleagues said they never do any of this stuff themselves and just use a professional garagiste. They seem to have no qualms about handing over copies of their ID and tax details to some dodgy mechanic who might leave them kicking around on his desk for all I know.

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They are probably sick of the ANTS website which has been a disaster from Day 1,much easier to let someone else have all the aggro of an incompetent site.As for the original post,what is the problem,what has having a tax number or being registered with CPAM got to do with registering a car for goodness sake,anybody got any reasonable answer?

Ha ha! You basically need to have a FranceConnect account now to access ANTS or whatever it’s called now. And that in turn requires a tax number or registration with the CPAM etc. There are a few possible “gateways”.
Probably works fine for most people but God help you if you fall between the cracks.

I tried to do the same for one of ours but having battled through the system they said OK but it’s a new Carte Gris because you didn’t add your wife on the first. Given the car it was too far too expensive, two or three hundred if I remember well, for what’s an administrative change.

I’m sure not all the people are such :thinking:

Of course not but I really don’t want my personal details complete with copies of my passport, tax notice etc. lying around in a garage. I wouldn’t trust our local garage owner any further than I could throw him.

Am pretty sure what you say about adding a name being treated as a change of ownership still holds. Although absolutely none of that is made clear on the ANTS site.

It’ll be interesting to see what they say but if it’s going to cost a few hundred euros, like yourself I’ll probably not bother.

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No, but there are offices that provide the service. Now I’m not sure they are any more diligent with personal data but it’s not just a “mechanic” thing. From my recent experience of ANTS they are much improved in terms of process and responsiveness, which was what the third parties were exploiting. So now I’m not sure what any third party can now add to the IT conversant. Hence, I’ve noticed quite a few of the “we’ll get your CG” type shops shuttered. .

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made clear on the ANTS site.
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No, it wasn’t made clear to me either until I had jumped through all the hoops and they sent me the final document to sign - with the bill. I can’t remember the amount and it is car dependent but it was a chunk of change, two or three hundred (or maybe more, I looked but can’t immediately find the document) for zero benefit. I just cancelled the request.

It’s all about reinforcing security on things that can be used to steal people’s identity.

OK, that’s good to know. Thanks John.

They’re simply ways to identify yourself, rather than create a whole new system of ID just for car registration. Similar to the way that the UK government used to allow you to identify yourself through the Post Office.

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It seems to be a way of identifying someone. It’s strange for me, from the UK, but it makes sense because it’s a way of joining up the many different systems. I would have a single identity rather than one for the DVLA, one for passports, one for tax …