When I heard her comments after Starmer resigned on Monday, I thought how gauche, but she excelled herself today.
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Timely piece for me. I was going to remark a few days back, when someone mentioned Badenoch, that I really didnât like her. I decided not to as it was both off topic (ish) and not an overly constructive comment, more a personal opinion I ought keep to myself - in the name of forum harmony. Here however, in a thread on the very subjectâŚ
Everytime she speaks, I just hear a personification of negativity. Sure, the role of the leader of the opposition is to oppose, I get that, but she seems to have no other mode of operation. Does she not have any constructive thoughts? The grim reaper of politics, sucking the life out of everything.
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As with most aspects of personality politics, people tend to line up with their tribes.
But I agree, yesterday was a bit graceless.
Though she didnât call her opponents âscumâ or âNazisâ.
But Badenochâs also written to Sir Mark Rowley to try to get him to stop Steve Brayâs antics, citing his interruption of Starmerâs resignation speech.
Yes, she was quite clever for once, using disruption to the PM as a vehicle to make the case for silencing Bray, who normally attacks the right.
Not that I hold any truck for Bray who seems to be a bit of a crank.
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And sometimes personal opinions just happen to align with those of whatever churches. Doesnât mean membership, to mix my metaphors.
She comes across to me as very smug and is always on the attack, never constructive. Think she has a huge chip on her shoulder being a black person too
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I didnât know his name before yesterday. He is nowhere near as creative as Led by Donkeys.
This is interesting. Do you have some sort of expertise in this?
Westminster is a nest of vipers and thereâs no sign of a new Saint Patrick.
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There are a few shining lights, but too many of them are just dismal. Labour saw what the Tories had got away with and copied them, I think.
I wonder if PR would improve things.
Nothing a MOAB wouldnât fix.
Does she want to appear tough? Izal toilet paper, takes shit from no manâŚ.or woman.
Badenoch is going down the Trump/Bannonite route - they want politics like one of those crass US wrestling bouts loved by Trump.
The idea is to bring a kind of nihilism to everything, then their own moral vacuums become acceptable.
Once acceptable they push forward to outright polarisation, aggression, greed, flouting of laws and standards, and insouciance.
Trump changed the Defence department to the War department.
The Israelis shoot kids donât they? Not Israeli kids though.
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No she isnât. John Craceâs article is absurd: the Guardian is as bad as the Telegraph. For example, Badenoch shouldnât have criticised Ed Miliband because it was a hot day and he is âthe man doing the most to stop the climate crisisâ.
I wouldnât have said what she said, but I wouldnât call people scum either. Oneâs unguarded language betrays one, even if one later apologises.
The Labour (and its supportersâ) outrage is confected. A great deal of unpleasant (but, unfortunately, not âunparliamentaryâ) language is used by both sides. Before crying foul, Labour should clean up its act. It wouldnât be impossible, but the whole of parliament has become used to using this kind of language because it appeals to some of its respective voters.
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John Crace is a sketch writer, his articles arenât meant to be taken as gospel.
You seem to have a very low opinion of the Graun. Iâd read that any day rather than the Torygraph.
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It would be great to be able to take his articles seriously!
I have a low opinion of both papers, largely because they have both (along with the rest of the Press) given up reporting and taken up campaigning (as has the BBC). I have no problem with a paper having a bias - itâs difficult to be involved in politics without supporting one side or another - but I donât expect the editor to allow that to affect factual reporting.
I heard the whole of that PMQs & Mr Crace does, as ever, hit the nail on the head - not at all âabsurdâ.
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Crace always streches the truth. Itâs satire. For me, it sometimes a stretch too far even if amusing.
Ah, but in both your cases (@Badger and @Jennifer11 ), from previous posts, and to adapt Sister Jenniferâs biblical terminology 
, Crace is preaching to the converted.
If you didnât laugh at the state of UK politics youâd top yourself, John Crace takes aim at all sides of Parliament and not just the opposition benches.
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No need to be converted, Iâve always been this way 
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