like I said, clever old you.
If you believe this to be the case, you must be very happy in that knowledge.
On the other hand if I thought like that, Iād probably be spending all my dosh on votive candles.
Authentically mediaeval!
If you donāt mind me asking, do you spend much on votive candles?
obversely, of courseā¦ well, you can fill in the gaps.
I do believe it to be the case, have you never held a new born child in your arms?
sorry, I donāt know much about buggers, do you?
Sorry, but most people believe that to be a simple, hopefully intended biological consequence! Cause and effect - tooth fairies, gooseberry bushes and the like arenāt usually relevant - although some SF posters have apparently (unsuccessfully) tested that virgin birth schtick 
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I think youāll find that most people consider child birth to be a miracle, its a very dangerous occurrence for both mother and child
not fan of Hot Chocolate then?
Careful, youāre in danger of becoming sincere!
never
thanks - big relief!
no problem.
pmsl
Yes, Iāve a very balanced view on all that Mark. I think itās all gibberish 
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its probably your age.
Obviously I agree, but I find it really interesting to see how religions or belief systems evolve. For instance for the first thousand years of Christianity, the New Testament contained fewer references to the Virgin Mary than did the Koran!
Secondly during the first millenium of Christianity icongrahic depictions of the seated Mary and the infant Jesus on her lap, were all dereived from the standard Egyptian ones of Isis and Horus. May post links later if anyone"s interested
I know Mark, but you are more tolerant and academically minded than I am 
My only interest is the origins of this claptrap would be in how we can eradicate such silly thinking in the future
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I might be more academically minded, but Iām less sure if Iām āmore tolerantā I simply study history to remind myself how seemingly āconstantā or āeternalā values have actually changed. As regards the future, thereās self evidently a very strong worldāwide populist dynamic that can be attributed the masses who feel they are being āleft behindā and so they mere firmly embracre the seemingmy secure historical ācertaintiesā of the recent past .
Iāmafraid that it can only be through education of the young that any sort of change can be effected.
Maybe more patient might be more appropriateš
Iāve done it a number of times and frankly miracle isnāt what Iād call it. Hard, rewarding, emotionally intense physical work, but miracle? No.
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