Brexit.... squeaky bum time

Yup! When we started we thought it was going to be a DIY (mainly) forum…

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Baaaaa baa baaaa baaaaaaaaaa! :sheep::sheep::sheep::wink:

(Do you have to knock the flock?)

To be honest Tim I don’t think anybody here could be accused of being part of a flock. I would have thought the mere fact that all of us, each in our own way, is ploughing a lone furrow should be proof of that. This forum is a self help group for lone furrow ploughers.

All together now… :notes:♬ One man went to mow, went to mow a meadow ♬:notes:

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Surely there’s enough space for everyone to contibute according to their most pressing
concerns. Most people on here are still connected in some way to the UK whether it be
with family, financial ties or what have you.

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Being a sheep is the easy option but not always the right one. :wink:

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True - we could all be cheerleaders for a bunch of incompetents :wink:

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Ewe could be right.

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Tim has never struck me as the cheerleader type

Probably hasn’t got the legs for it :laughing:

I’ve no idea why they were being trained to have an unconscious bias. Their conscious bias was sufficient, as the Windrush generation will testify.

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I knew that they were all half asleep, this proves it!

Now it’s really getting serious…

What did they expect?

Brexit gets real in 14 days (well, 15 as the 1st is a bank holiday)

Just watching Dans l’Air on France 5 which is all about Brexit…
There’s a piece to camera by a local Kent resident who admits to voting for Brexit and is now complaining about the building of the giant lorry park in her nice peaceful village which she had no idea about…
rough justice perhaps but she voted for it :roll_eyes:

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Anybody want a bet that tomorrow’s deadline will just fade away like all the others?

Even if it happens I don’t think it’s going to be a deal so much as a damp squib. Face saving on both sides but so skinny it only averts total disaster. Still, it may be something to build on.

Though, this may have only been a skirmish, the real battle could be financial services and there’s nothing left in Bojo’s quiver.

Now that’s just not true, we have Boris wit, charm, intelligent and diplomatic skills to fall back on…


O wait a minute, were really are fecked aren’t we :flushed::crazy_face::dizzy_face:

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roost chickens home coming to …rearrange, there will be a lot of this, holiday makers, post/ phone costs, Scottish fishermen, farmers (lots sheep) in Wales , small firms selling into EU (hard for them to serve markets in India), the list will grow.

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From Stay European

Border crisis builds

It’s not even two weeks into Brexit, and every day brings a new report of problems. Shortages of fresh fruit and veg are still sporadic, but appear to be growing.

Lorry traffic is gradually increasing after the holidays, and some rules have not yet fully kicked in. Suppliers are warning that shortages may soon ‘surge’.

Even Michael Gove admitted: “In the weeks ahead, we expect that there will be significant additional disruption – particularly on the Dover-Calais route.”

We should be prepared for Brexit not necessarily causing a sharp crisis, but gradually growing shortages and price rises. As food trade expert Prof Tony Heron says: “It won’t be a blow out, but a slow bleed.”

Meanwhile anyone who delivers to or from the UK has been hit with customs bills, VAT bills, delays and even tariffs in some cases (despite the government’s promises). Even individuals posting small gifts now need to pay extra charges.

This was always the reality of Brexit – but as people experience this red-tape explosion for themselves, we will start to see the effects in the polls, and a growing movement to rejoin.

Brexit kills bees

Pesticides that kill bees have just been brought back into use in England – breaking the government’s promise that it would keep them banned after Brexit.

The neonicotinoids are banned by the European Union because of the “serious danger they pose to bees” – which are so vital to our ecosystem.

This is a disaster for bee populations and it must be stopped. Sign the petition here.

The music stops

The EU offered to waive visas for UK musicians’ tours as part of the Brexit deal, it has been revealed – but our government said no .

The proposal is offered as ‘standard’ in the EU’s deals, but our government would not allow it as it did not want to allow EU musicians to tour Britain on the same terms, an EU source told the Independent .

It is a devastating blow to musicians and we will keep up the pressure to overturn it.

Freedom of movement

Labour leader Keir Starmer made headlines this week by dropping his support for freedom of movement. While we don’t support (or oppose) a particular political party, our support for free movement is unrelenting.

We will ALWAYS defend freedom of movement , fighting to regain our right to live, work and study across Europe, and the right of other Europeans to come and enrich our society by doing the same in Britain.

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Re: musicians - it seems Johnson confused Schengen tourist rules with those for touring musicians - but as far as France goes it turns out that up to 90 days per year is possible.

Summary here: