British citizen applying for French residence permit AFTER Oct 31st 2019 and BEFORE Dec 31st 2020

I don’t understand what you mean.
How exactly are citizens’ rights not being protected?
What do you think is missing from the WA? Specifically, please?
Yes we are losing certain rights. That’s inevitable because we won’t be EU citizens. But that’s what the UK decided.

I hope Grahame comes back with specifics.
Yesterday I politely asked Barrie for specific examples of areas where the U K had higher standards than the rest of Europe before it joined the Community. I thought he might have some stats about animal welfare for instance, I suspect the UK might have ranked well there. But he never came back. Frustrating.

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Funny that…

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What do you mean? Do you mean the EU will be held to account by UK citizens who are cross the UK has decided to leave the EU, thus causing them (the UK citizens) distress trouble etc? Because that isn’t logical at all.

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And @cat’s “Funny that…” is awarded this Sunday’s Golden Globle for the best sleepy bedtime post, short, sweet, and zzzzzzz…:pensive:

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Insofar as whether or not Marine Le Pen would want to change things with regard to FOM, were she ever to be elected as President (and that’s a pretty big “IF”), no doubt, like Salvini in Italy, she might like to try. The question is really how far she could possibly get without it all coming crashing down around her. Whilst there may be an undercurrent of anti-EU sentiment on both the left and the right of the political divide in France, fundamentally left and right wing politics still oppose each other. It is also my belief that fundamentally, the people of France are not likely to accept any push to the hard right, be it on national policies, or as members of the EU. Remember that despite the political apathy in many of the younger generations, France is still largely motivated (in my opinion) by a sense of social justice. Whilst the liberal / centre-right / middle ground may be currently embodied by Macron and his government, it would be surprising in the extreme to see the Rassemblement National come to absolute power, I honestly don’t think that such an outcome is in French political DNA. There is a ground swell of left wing socialism built into French society on the back of memories of the occupation during WWII that will never go away. Today’s ground might be more rightward-leaning, but that doesn’t mean that the French have thrown away the values of the republic. Mme Le Pen’s political leanings, no matter how well tarted up to look respectable, are still deeply divisive and debatable.

Le Pen’s ambitions will be kept in check unless she leads France out of the EU - it is not clear the French would actually vote for that.

It would be pretty cataclysmic if it did though.

I would agree and I think our leaving will cause a significant drop.

I think I’ve found athe text in the EU Withdrawal Agreement that contradicts this. In Article 39, (pg. 65) of Part Two, Citizens’ Rights , it states:

Life-long protection
The persons covered by this Part shall enjoy the rights provided for in the relevant Titles of this Part
for their lifetime, unless they cease to meet the conditions set out in those Titles.

I know each country is making its own unilateral arrangements, but I guess all such arrangements must nevertheless satisfy the requirements of the WA. Hence, it appears that Brits present and legally resident in France (tenancy, bank account, all that) on 31st Dec 2020 will inherit residence rights for life.

If anybody can show that I’m incorrect, please do tell me. Otherwise this’ll be all I need to commit to a move to France in March.

The devil is in the detail. “Legally resident” means fulfilling all the conditions, not just having a bank account, and then continuing to fulfil them for 5 years before you can get a permanent (ie 10 year renewable card). And for non-nationals there is no such thing as having unconditional residency rights for life. They can be withdrawn and people can be deported. Only in extreme cases of course, but trying to illustrate that the WA is not the highest authority.

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Thank you for the input. Also, I need to go through the “titles” and check up on ways to fall foul of this bit:

unless they cease to meet the conditions set out in those Titles.

I note you seem to be relying on a UK publication and NOT what the French Govt has put on its own online Site. :thinking:

I would suggest you read the French stuff if you plan to come to France.

Before you have any significant security you will need to have lived in France for five years maintaining the basic requirements for residency. The French government has made it clear that any U.K. citizens legally resident in France before the end of the transition period, including those who have recently arrived who meet the residency criteria, will be given residency cards to allow them to reach the five year point.
Driving out of Eurotunnel five minutes before the end of the transition period will not be enough to guarantee residency rights.

Have a look at articles 15 & 16 of your link.

The bit you quoted seem to be taken from the Special Provisions. Tbh wihout reading the context I’m not sure what it refers to, but I don’t imagine it overrides the basic principles. They’re not going to set detailed conditions and then say, Actually ignore all that, you can all stay for ever whether you met the condtions or not

Anna,

if you been following the work of the various campaign groups there are plenty of specifics reported in there posts/blogs.

If you want to know more then post with the specific questions that interest you and I’ll point you at the detail.

Hey! I am going to be in the same situation. I will work remotely as Blockchain Developer for a UK company but live in Paris. How did your employer handle your tax situation? Kindly respond. Thanks.

This is the information that your employer will need to look at and follow

Thanks Jane Jones! I will look at it. I appreciate your help.

Be aware that your employer will have to do things…and will have to pay social security contributions for you.

Under this system, companies must declare their employee status with the centre national firmes étrangères (CNFE), an entity within the Urssaf collection office of the Alsace region. The CNFE then transmits the information to the other relevant statutory social security institutions.

Great. However, if I get a job with a French company they pay the tax contributions? I am assuming that makes me legally resident? Will I qualify for health access if I get a job with a French company? Or do I still need to take private health care insurance pending the 3 months residency stipulation?

Your french employer will pay and your can join health service straight away.