Carte de Sejour - what's the latest?

Well done for the heads up David.
You have rescued the topic from my original enquiry re CdS - the latest…

https://brexit.gouv.fr/sites/brexit/accueil/vous-etes-britannique-en.html

Oddly [or not?] l first saw a link to that on Facebook.

Where do you think I got it from? Certain ‘specialist’ pages on Facebook are really quick at getting th3 latest, up to date information out there. :slight_smile:

Precisely. it’s easy to disparage Facebook, but there are some useful pages, as long as one keeps up and saves.

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Interesting to read the back and forth… re forums and Facebook…
In my view… some folk will use/prefer one… some use/prefer the other… and some use both… some won’t touch FB with a barge pole… all fair enough.

As it happens, the “special” Brexit pages in English and French… which FB are showing… we had on this forum from the very day it first appeared… which seems like a lifetime ago … time flies by…

quite possibly FB did too… I’ve no idea…

I wonder if Users of this forum might like to consider “bookmarking” links offered here… on any info which they find interesting (possibly you do already) … since that makes it easy for one to check from time to time… and get the latest info at one’s fingertips… :hugs:

just an idea…

or should it be disfarage Pacebook? :rofl:
not that I’m dyslexic, of course… but I did use to call our cat “cooking fat” :joy:

It’s not a case of either/or. Most people have sites that they access via the internet that they trust. As far as the ‘British in/interested in France sites’ are concerned SFN is the top of my list and is the only one I’m active on. I also follow several sites on Facebook which I know and trust. There are far more FB groups and pages that I’ve joined and left because they did not meet my needs or expectations. When I needed to exchange my driving licence the best information came from a dedicated FB group. The person who runs it is a member of SFN. When I was applying for a CdS RIFT Poitou Charente and Vendeé via FB was by far the best source of up to the minute accurate information (I quickly left the nationwide RIFT group which I found unpleasant) and now with the nuts and bolts of the withdrawal from Europe imminent I use France Rights British in Europe and the British Embassy in Paris as good sources. All of the FB groups that I have mentioned have links to the organisations that make the rules and process the changes. If I had ever had trouble with registering a vehicle I’m sure that I would have joined Mark Rimmer’s FB group for that too. As I have not needed to I have not.
If I see what I know to be incorrect information posted on a forum or a FB page I will comment on it and will always be willing to give links to what I believe it to be true. I’ve done it on SFN and only two days ago highlighted an incorrect statement on the France Rights British in Europe page. My observation was not well received although the statement was edited. It was too late however as it had already been published in at least one local ex-pat freebie magazine and The Local.
My experience over the past few years is that things change often and quite quickly. The date for opening the Brexit CdS portal is a good example. Once these changes are made they have to be shared quickly and clearly. Bookmarking old and obsolete information is on no use whatsoever.

I fear you have misunderstood… my offering was only an idea… which some folk might find useful… that’s all

In my experience, the links to French governmental sites update automatically… thus if one bookmarks a site or particular part thereof… eg Brexit… Impots… whatever … when you pull up the bookmark… it brings up the current link…

at least it does for me… apologies if such is not a usual occurrence.

cheers

Perhaps I should have added that I always check with the official sites but in fact, as of this morning, not all of the official sites have yet been updated about the change of date for opening the Brexit CdS portal. The change of date has however been announced and needs to be shared.

Perhaps I should have added…

that for those who did not bookmark the French Brexit site when it first came on the Forum…
they might like to consider bookmarking it now… as you so rightly say David … this is the latest info… and they can double check whenever they wish… :relaxed: :relaxed:

https://brexit.gouv.fr/sites/brexit/accueil/vous-etes-britannique-en.html
NB: I knew it was months… but I’d not thought it was not far off one year ago we started looking at that site… :wink:

The twists and turns in the plot have so far resulted in just as many changes in how you can or acnnt apply for a CDS.

We have been promised an UE CdS or a new style one on half a dozen occasions over the past 2 years. Every time there has been a delay in negotiations or signs of an agreement the story has changed.

I am retired so it doesn’t make much difference for me. But, my wife and son who are reliant on their self-employed income have seen a collapse in the work and increasing difficulties in finding new work in the abscence of proof of their right to reside.

This has been compounded by the impact of Covid-19.

Of course the French could give CdS UE now to those that qualify and exchange them when they have finally decided what they are going to do with us after the end of this year.

For all the faults of the system in the UK at least the 3million can apply online and get confirmation of their provisional or permanent right to reside and have been able to do so for many, many months.

Grahame.

I thought you had got your CdS sorted a while ago. I’m surprised that not having one at the moment is making any difference because during the transition period British citizens in France are maintains their rights. There is still a year to go before having a CdS becomes compulsory.

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I know several people who have been trying to do just that, and it is a nightmare - and they are young’ish intelligent people who can understand directions. My sister works in citizen’ advice, and they are buried by elderly people (not counting the windrush clients) who have been in UK a long time and are really having problems. And the number of mistakes is high too.

Up until they opened the first online site you could get a CdS in many areas of France - not all admittedly as some refused to play nicely. And then you could register on the portal and wait. So it is not that the Ex-UK people have been abandoned. Quite frankly if I were part of the powers to be I’d not want to spend resources setting up a new admin system for a bunch of Brits who have chosen to leave the EU. So Ikm grateful that they have done as much as they have.

The French know exactly what they are going to do with us at the end of the year. What makes you think otherwise?

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I don’t understand Grahame. Why do your wife and son need “proof of their right to reside” to get work? There is no requirement to prove right to reside currently. Are people really saying they won’t use them because they can’t prove they have a right to live in France?
Izzy x

David,

We would have had our CdS years ago if France, more specifically our prefecture, had:

a. conceded that we are entitled to one;

b. not kept changing its mind what it is going to do.

Why are you surprised that not having one is making any difference?

The French government asserts we don’t need one but companies want to know that we are entitled to reside and work here and the French government’s assertions do not translate into proof, any more than the UK’s online system (which has been up and running for months) provides documentary proof for the 3million.

Your experience may be different but that is our experience.

Grahame Pigney

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You’ll need to find the original thread Izzy…
from memory, it was all about nothing and nothing about everything :wink:

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What sort of companies are you dealing with if they don’t know the basic rights of the British in the EU during the transition period? They don’t seem to be very well informed at all.

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here we go again… :roll_eyes:

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