EV - buy or wait?

The difficulty is saying exactly what would happen if society did completely break down - barter might be much more important for example, certainly early on.

Yes, wealthy individuals can afford private armies (as they did throughout history) - but they need feeding, equipping etc and mercenaries’ loyalty might not last if their stomachs are empty (who was it that said society is only three meals away from anarchy?).

Obviously I’m hoping we avoid a doomsday scenario - but when we have a very small number of extremely wealthy, self interested and self centred individuals who’s actions tend only to exacerbate the situation I’m not 100% sure that we will.


Serious question for you Corona , when do you think the last petrol and diesel for cars/vans/trucks will be produced in quantity, when will ICE vehicles final be off the roads and be replaced by EV’s, a rough date.

It will be the 17th of October 2073 in the afternoon :thinking:


Too inaccurate :yum::laughing:

About 3PM, I think.

Seriously, it might be available in small quantities for vintage vehicles for a very long time (assuming no doomsday scenario, of course).


The difficulty is saying exactly what would happen if society did completely break down - barter might be much more important for example, certainly early on.

Perhaps I ought to revive this :slight_smile:

A letter to friends about my life in SW France January 2050 (if the world does nothing)

In your Mad Max scenario there will only be oil to run ICE vehicles until the refined stocks run out. The refineries will cease to function without the massive amount of electricity currently supplied to them by large grids (apart from those in suitable climates with enough space for their own solar farms, as has happened in Texas).

In other words, the clever survivors will have EVs that can be charged from off-grid power, be it wind, solar, hydro or all three.

I will also mention the lower maintenance demands of EVs - very important once getting spares becomes impossible.

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This is what was feared UK would become after Brexit.

Oh, right…

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It’s a moot point really as everywhere will be under 50 ft of water due to climate change melting all the ice on earth :wink:
Waterworld here we come :yum:

There’s a gap in the market here and in the trade press I’ve seen a few snippets that China has companies that sound to be getting into replacement ‘compatible’ batteries.

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The absolute worst case is held to be a 70m rise in sea level, so there will be quite a lot of dry land left. Admittedly that means I will have two sea front properties :rofl:

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Everyone perched on a hill, great, Scotland would be ok :yum:

However, no one actually expects all the polar ice to melt, and certainly not by 2100.

Never say never :yum::laughing:
They would have to change to the British Many Isles, the United Kingdom would be really stretching it a bit.

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Has any heard of the calculations/speculations moving that amount of water from the poles would do to earths orbit?

Yep, think you a right but not for domestic vehicles and probably not for lorries either, very large specialist machines maybe. Legislation will simply stop domestic ICE transport.

Only around 35% of total refinery production is for fuel.

Presumably synthetic lubes could replace dinosaur juice? No more valesine, just imagine.

Very little I would imagine since it would not alter the total mass of the Earth.

It might, I suppose, alter the precession or tiny wobble as the Earth spins as the mass would have a very slight change in distribution.

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We could use bacon grease instead. :heart_eyes:

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