EV - buy or wait?

Positive :wink:. I’d heard the acceleration was quite good and I wasn’t disappointed :slightly_smiling_face:. This is it

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Ah but the outside temperature does become a factor, ok not by as much but still is, 25miles when the notice comes up but only 18-20 when its freezing in my petrol bus. My old Volvo, to pull out of a turning quickly you had to turn off the AC, not kidding it stole that much power! Things have obviously improved but so much of that mentioned is trash media.

Congratulations on a bargain, and I’m sure the extra 10kW will come in handy :slightly_smiling_face:

I was going to mention that but thought it a finance, not an EV matter.

Our R5 was the first time I’d leased a car (as I’ve mentioned before, I think the depreciation risk on our other one is sufficient :slightly_smiling_face:) so I was concerned about what happed if it was written off before the end of the lease. Neighbours of mine had just such a problem when a car they had leased was written off with about six months to go on the lease. I would have expected that their own comprehensive insurance would just have paid the leasing company and they would get a new car on a new immediately. But no, they had to continue paying the leasing charge until the end of the lease period. So, I made sure I took out insurance with Renault for that, though it wasn’t compulsory.

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I agree it could be a problem with petrol/diesel motors.

EVs on the other hand come with an app (and there are plenty of alternatives) which tells you where the nearest chargers are, if they are working, if it is in use, how much it will cost to fill up, how long it will take, facilities available nearby, and the best route to get there. You can even read reviews of the charger or leave one yourself to ensure the supplier gets any feedback.

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What a strange comment, why would anybody pretend?

Depending on the model, your colleague’s Skoda has either a 62kWh or a 82kWh battery. Neither should cause any, any commuting anxiety, especially for an experienced EVer (to coin a phrase).

You may well have misinterpreted, normally one should keep between 20% and 80% charged, but that’s for battery health not to counteract so called range anxiety.

Now, when you’re up a mountain, surrounded by snow, the temperature plummeting and your range with it and not sure where the next charger is, as I was in December, that’s when a spot of range anxiety might surface (it didn’t :slightly_smiling_face:) , not pulling in to the company car park with 8% in the tank.

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Maybe we should start a thread on the apps people on here use and their experience with them? I’ve ended up with a handful of cards and even more apps (belt and braces) and a guide/critique of them would have been useful to me as a debutante.

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That’s exactly how the assurance was explained, including if I kicked the proverbial… First time I’ve ever leased a car too, and although it’s a couple of months old as far as I’m concerned its brand new, and I’ve never had one of them either.

Yes, I was thinking that too, but didn’t want to mention it :joy: I don’t want to leave any, ehem, “difficulties” behind. Dreadful have to think that way, isn’t it.

Buying a demo is always a shrewd decision :slightly_smiling_face: and it’s the colour you wanted too.

Just normal use I think, but we didn’t discuss that part. My point was that despite several years experience he still feels range anxiety it a way that’s different to driving IC, and that it’s not a myth spread by people trying to undermine EV owners. TBH I was quite surprised, and would have expected his experience to make him confident.

I love the yellow!!! Can I be rude and ask how much such a cute car is per month?

Some people do have irrational phobias

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That’s a pity and not generally the case I’m sure. Especially for an early adopter, as things have only got better, both in vehicle range and charger availability.

There alway Xanax.

The price varies depending on the options (battery, power, colour, sound etc) and is between €24 and 38k. There is a €6800 deposit less any bonus fiscal and ecologique of €4k (which I got). For the LLD over 3 years the The stated mensuality is between about €200 and 350 but obligatory assurance adds about another 100. I will be paying about 100/month less. Loads of info on the Renault website, but I wouldn’t bother about trading anything in, they offered less than half of what I can get selling privately.

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I can remember towing a caravan in the Alps with a Discovery and when approaching hairpin bends I would switch off the air con, it had a similar effect to changing down.

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Yes, only selling their Teslas.

The other weekend I hired a Ford Transit to go and pick up some things that a friend had stored in their garage for us. For an extra couple of Euros, Leclerc offer the electric version over the diesel. It’s 10m³ instead of 11m³, but I didn’t have much stuff to collect, so went for it.

I’ve driven plenty of white vans over the years, and hated them all. This time, however, it was almost a pleasure to drive. No noisy engine sounding like a bag of spanners, no crunching as you try to find the right gear… just smooth and quiet from the get go.

It’s only got enough juice on a full charge to go 200 KMs, which would probably give AM’s colleague lots of stress… Not sure if Ford offer bigger batteries. I topped it up briefly once we got back home (Ionity have installed fast chargers in our local Intermarché) but put less than 10€ in because Leclerc themselves only charge 1€ per 10% of battery.

The only slightly negative point is Leclerc restrict the top speed to 90 KMh, which is ok if I’m going back to the Médoc as it’s a RN that’s limited to 90 anyway, but would be annoying if using the autoroute.

Well worth considering if anyone’s looking to hire a transit van any time soon.

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I’m looking forward to the time when it will be possible to get hold of an EV suitable for real off roading and not green laining and not designed for the urban elites.

It would have to be agricultural in nature…zero techie iPad touch screen nonsense, simple big button on/off stuff, no GPS needed, wipe clean surfaces (ideally brusshable because of the dust in the summer, AC not required (open a window), minimum 220mm ground clearance, no plastic body styling, electric winch on the front for towing yourself out of ditches, no radio(only 8 track stereo required), no cigarette lighter decent holdall or rack to house chainsaws and fuel tanks. Proper steel wheels to fit AT or Mud tyres, must be only available in White (no urine coloured metallic browns), retina burning bright headlights, a horn that sounds like a honey badger on acid, a finally, a basket to keeps the kittens safe.

Maybe a converted 2CV would do it but in the meantime, will still with the Lada Niva and Subaru Forester…

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This probably fits the bill…

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…Just need to raid the piggy bank for 100k + :slight_smile:

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