My colleague had a Zoe with a 75km range as a first ev - now that was REALLY stressful. He knew it needed charging every day for a 12 mile commute, so it just simply got done every time and no discussion.
It all sounds a bit big, bulky and heavy for me. In an ideal world this would be replaced by an electric dual sport but at the moment they’re still too expensive.
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But if that’s a home to work commute and the range gets you there and back with enough spare to do some shopping that sounds ideal.
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Haha yeah even I would get a squeaky bum with only 75km range
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The first production Zoe had a 22 kWh battery pack that delivered a range between 210 km and 240 km.
With a range of only 75km you’d be lucky to get out of the drive an on very cold day 
I’d say it was more like double that in winter and nearer the claimed range on summer days.
Must have been a very very long road downhill 
Oh ye of little faith
Are you guys saying your own insurance wouldn’t pay out if you got pranged and it was a writeoff? or is your lease contract forcibly including their insurance that won"t.
Also isn"t it possible to get a contract with an early termination penalty in case you depart prematurely?
No, its the finance insurance/perte financière
Is that what in the UK would be called Gap insurance, it covers the finance side?
Sorry, no idea. Seems a bit of a rip off though (bit like PPI)
My son in law bought a HD electric motorbike the other year, exactly the same model and colour that Ewen McGregor rode in the Long Way Up. He said it went like a bat out of hell but he missed the HD roar plus when out with the HD club on long rideouts, finding a charging point in the Texas panhandle and further over into reservation lands was nigh on impossible. HD then contacted him to say they did not want to continue with electric bikes as no one was interested and that in future, it would be difficult to service so he went straight to the showroom and traded it in for a big hog with some roar. He likes to buy a new bike every year or so depending on the terrain and how comfortable it is but never an electric model again.
Common denominator, they are both insurances.
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The sort of thing I want is a light capable off road bike with a range of about 80-100km. Such things exist, KTM make one but they are too expensive for me to consider at the moment. When riding along tracks and trails in rural France the last thing I want is the roar of a testosterone enhancing motorcycle I want to pass by causing as little sound pollution as possible.
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…I like this…
The major thing Harleys had going for them really was the “rolling thunder” of their underpowered, massive capacity V twins. The first thing one does after buying a Harley is to change the exhausts to ones that unleash that great thump-a-thump-a-thump sound. An electric Harley is an a mistake. Similarly, a real Porsche is a flat six (preferably air cooled), anything else is just is just a tarted up Tiguan, Toureg, or E-Tron
Well at least they actually do have an electra glide at last
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Yes, there are some nice machines coming on stream, but, as you say, far too pricey yet.
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They laughed at me when I bought a diesel Avensis (you can too 
) … but, while I (think I) understand what you mean, I suspect that sort of opinion is held by less than 5% of any population, which includes people like Jeremy Clarkson.
I used to think that but the Taycan and now the electric Macan are starting to grow on me… Just a shame I can’t afford one.
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