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Generally the easiest method, EV’s need their 12v battery attached in order to select neutral and release the handbrake so many garages may have disconnected the battery
The VW ID3 can be towed on the road and a towing eye is included in the kit … The instructions are detailed and in the user manual. It does require the car to be ON … And the key and a driver in the driver’s seat ..It also requires the 12V battery to have power in it … . The point about the 12V battery not being disconnected is valid ..otherwise the N position cannot be selected . Steering is harder, brakes are harder to engage ..since regen is absent and automatic" handbrake " option disabled .. My assumptions that in the N position the three phases from the controller to the motor are open circuited by a contactor ,but the rest of the electronics is live. So very likely the motor rotor is spinning freely
Blimey, just when I was, almost, warming to EVs.
I was thinking as I was rolling home today that this Partner would be the last vehicle I would ever own. If it became terminal, as it nearly did a few weeks ago, I was thinking I would make do with a sans permis…or an EV. But now. ![]()
wow, that’s a great transformation
What point has made you think again @David_Spardo
Hi Akosua,
Welcome to the community here. We’d love to hear more about your situation and connections to France? Do yoi have an EV here?
Next time you’re off on your travels, take the Morgan, a bag a spanners, a bit of baler twine, gaffer tape, red Araldite, a pair of the wife’s stockings, & a club hammer. ![]()
All the rigmarole about some can tow some can’t, some can be towed some can’t and then all the charging performance at home but all night or expensive kit there etc. etc..
But then I suppose even sans permis will all be electric soon, so tant pis, what will be will be.
Most can tow, older models less so but as there are not that many manufacturers and they are competing, they now equip or can equip with towing unlike a sans permit
charging really isn’t a problem at home as you look at the real world km’s per week you actually do it’s easy just to plug in overnight. You can’t run your house from your ICE vehicle but you can from many EV’s and those perks will only increase as time goes on. Nothing to worry over.
No Corona ..One cannot tow anything unless the car was certified in its documentation as eligible . It is an offence against the road traffic acts everywhere . The car might be capable but any unapproved modification to a Vechicle turns it into experimental . I started looking this up because it was the only thing that miffed me with the ID3 … And I have a small trailor in France for the grass clippings ..which I now cannot use. The VW ID3 manuals are very explicit on this point. ..That they have a specific tow ball assembly makes it weirder ..but that is specified only for a vertical load of a bike carrier.
With everything wrong in our worlds today, Personally don’t actually care about rules made by committee these days. A lot of the committee members have zero engineering nouse so just sitting there and nodding to earn their income. Engineers built this world a long time before these people got involved. My vehicle has no weight plate so cannot legally tow in the UK and probably EU as well. However the same vehicle in Australia can. It’s a committee decision but being an import they just didn’t do it. VW are suffering probably because of the lack lustre details like your tow issue. I have cleared the tow bar with my insurance company and like you it’s garden rubbish not heavy plant or caravans.
My Hyundai EV came fitted with a tow bar. It has a smart connection which tells you if a light on the trailer is not working and which one. It also demobilises one pedal operation and smart cruise control whilst towing, which is sensible.
On the one occasion I needed to be towed back to the dealership due to a defective key sensor it could only be moved on giant roller skates then winched onto a flatbed truck.
No neutral available to disengage the motors it seems?
There might be but in neutral the brakes come on.
Yep, no movement mode available. I would expect that across the Hyundai and Kia range then? With the ridiculous battery underbody protection shield fitted to their range they are quickly dropping off my list of vehicles, the PV5 looked like a possibility but it lacks a lot of sound deadening so is a very noisy drive.
Still leaning towards a Skoda Enyaq.
Here is my question to Claude, & the response.
Yes but ICEs breakdown far more often than EVs so ICE drivers are more anxious to be able to be towed. ![]()
The only problem being the huge number of gadgets on modern vehicles that can fail and for some reason cause a shutdown of the whole system. Applies to both but could be an issue for EV’s. It would be interesting to view some actual data
My only EV problem was when the sensor for the electronic key system failed. That was a complete shutdown but, as you say, is common to ICEs as well.
I have extensive experience of ICE breakdowns. My feeling is that all modern motors are so more reliable than of yore that it hardly bears concideration when choosing what to buy.