EV - buy or wait?

Mine failed today with a low 12v battery. The dash lit up like a Christmas tree but nothing would actually function. I’m now torn on whether to replace the battery or take the chance that it was a one off.

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Having previously owned both a Citroen Xsara and a Peugeot 3008, so have I :sob:

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I was going to write, actually did write but deleted the 12v battery issues for Hyundai and Kia’s

And goggles and fly remover for between my teeth :face_with_hand_over_mouth:

Just read a report on the new Audi E-Tron A2. Am impressive car and a nice compact size but with a 80kWh battery :slightly_smiling_face: Dashboard looks nice too, once it works :face_with_hand_over_mouth:

An A2 on steroids, like the mini, much larger now.

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One winter in the late Eighties, I commuted from Tyneside to Teesside in a colleague’s elderly Plus 4 and found my pre-War ‘Hereford’ waterproof oxhide motoring coat to be very useful each time we passed a truck in the rain and my fingers had become too numb to firmly grip the sidescreens.

Incidentally still have the coat, which remains in excellent condition and would be open to offers from any vintage car enthusiast…

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You can add Honda to your list

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I would get the new battery. You can guarantee when it next goes wrong it will be in the most inconvenient place.

Bizzarely it seems to be one of the things that goes wrong most often on EVs. As others have noted there are a lot less other things that can go wrong…one reason the auto trade really doesnt like the move to ev as between ev and safer car control systems it will devastate the aftermarket business which is what often is paying the bills.

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My Toyota has a high vampire drain so I fitted a remote battery disconnect, that’s working well adds another level for security until I have time to work my way through testing to find the fault. BIL has one on his BMW for the same reason

Yes, I just need to overcome my innate reluctance to spend the money. I should really have called the breakdown service as it should be a warranty issue but I’ve charged it now and don’t really want to go through the inconvenience of it happening again so that I can get it replaced under warranty.

Claude is sort of correct and also wrong in regard to induction moors .. in the absence of a magnetic field the rotor can be spinning merrily as much as it likes without creating any back emf … . Which is why I suggested that the stator windings in the VW ID3 etc would be electrically disconnected from the drive electronics of the 3 phase supply inverter ..So while no mechanical clutch ..which is what that answer was giving as " no disconnect " ..there can and I assume is an electrical disconnect.

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How old was the battery .. ?. .and how long was the EV between used when it happened . The classical lead acid battery is ill suited for use in an EV ..In fact VW have had a lengthy and expensive recall and refit under warranty for the 12V batteries in the ID series .. The original batteries were suited for ICE where the discharge is brutal at 400Amps during cranking and then starts getting replenished minutes later as the alternator starts spinning. The 12V in the EV leads what seems a cosseted existence with a maximum current draw of only maybe 10 Amps with heaters on and most times it’s in standby mode of maybe 100mA. . It seems lead acidbatteries peferred the rough stuff

As did I .. nursing a diesel 3008 from Lorient to Roscoff seeking to get the ferry was not my idea of fun … Somewhere north of Plouy , one of the Fuel .injectors failed and in a DCi engine that was serious lack of compression … The car had a limp home mode … 15 km/HR uphill, 45 km/HR level and maybe 80 downhill … Those familiar with the route might recall a TV transmitter Roc h Tredóun .. exceeding the engine revs for limping caused a stall.

2 years and I last used it yesterday, so not great. It’s a known issue and the answer seems to be just buy a decent battery.

It’s not that it should be a decent battery ..it is that it should be an appropriate battery .. long duration rather than heavy peak current

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Exactly, it is just like the difference between the cranking battery and the deep cycle batteries on a boat.

Yes the car might be capable but that doesn’t mean the feature will be sold in France. For marketing reasons, or because the government wants some certifications, for example.

For instance I noticed that on the highly attractive and laden with toys Hyundai Inster, other countries such as Germany did have VTL option, which is extremely important, But the French models sold at the same price and with an otherwise comparable spec did not.

I’m not sure if VTL is still missing on the France Hyundai Inster but that changed my thoughts immediately to buying in Germany (where actually quite a lot of car models are better specced) and not in France and just using the EU minor bureaucracy and cost to import as I would be better off.

Horrible little thing with all the appeal of a carbuncle.

@KarenLot I know, KNOW, your chic, aesthetic savoir faire couldn’t allow to buy that “thing”.

It’s got to be the R5e.

It’s what one can afford. And it’s sweet and very appealing - it used to be called the “Casper” (as in friendly ghost).

I don’t need to be trendy.