Fitting diesel injectors

My Renault Trafic leaks diesel like crazy. My local garagste in Vire [14500] identified injectors 1 & 4 leaking. But they will not take on the fitting of new injectors. Bizarrely, they reckon extracting them will inevitably ‘wreck’ the engine. Their solution was a complete recon engine. This is clearly bonkers - the engine below the injectors is perfectly serviceable.

The dealer will supply & pay for the fit of new injectors, as he is obliged to offer repairs to existing faults under consumer legislation. Two have already been fitted and the engine was not ‘wrecked’ but still leaks diesel. Now 2 & 3 need doing …

Does anyone know of a specialist in diesels/injectors who will do this job? I am, as they say, willing to travel … but not back to UK. Been there, done that for injectors 1 & 4. €400,05 to Brit Ferries + 6 hrs fuel.

Injectors in modern engines often have to be coded back into the ECU to further complicate things

It wouldnt wreck the engine, at worst it could be the head only and that could be repaired. Clearly they are just fitters and not Engineers

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I’ll ask my mechanic neighbour tomorrow, only 15 km south of Vire

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Yes. Plain vanilla two man local garage. Perfectly competent at most mechanical jobs but tech is beyond them.

I know Renatec in Bristol would do it no problem and a specialist in Finchley - built their own hydraulic lifter to extract injectors.

In a vid, when the last of 4 broke off, nothing daunted. They tapped the injectors barrel, screwed a bolt into the thread and lifted it out that way. Top guys.

But I can’t afford another round trip pouring money into Brit Ferries - not even to Finchley.

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Just come back from Finchley

Which, sadly, means modern cars will leave then further and further behind.

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Hi,have you tried Sodiama at Saint Hilaire Du Harcouet,think they could do it.

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It will leave them with the running gear, suspension - things that can be fixed with sockets and spanners.

A friend of mine with a very expensive laptop and s/ware said, “Garages call me when they don’t know what’s wrong”

Thanks. This all kicked off when I got back to FR on Sunday, so I’m in the first stages of looking for the right outfit.

I will give them a shout.

The name brings to mind this place, next door to a Lidl and Brico Depot near the airport at Valerncia. I went to Lidl and B/Depot frequently but never this place :grinning:

Increasingly these are active systems driven by electronics and hydraulics under electronic control.

No refuge for the “pure mechanic” from the onslaught of technology even there I’m afraid.

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That is a v. good shout. They look the biz. Thanks again. Also at Agneaux, so two places 40 mins from me. Vamos a ver!

I had a chat with my mechanic neighbour this morning. He said pretty much what you already know (difficult job and can possibly need cylinder head removal and drilling them out if they break - steel and aluminium!). He said there are loads of (mobile) specialists doing this in the uk, but knows no one here but they probably exist.

Thanks Mark. A tip from @Euro50 may provide the answer.

From my research of YT UK there’s plenty of people extracting injectors, from blokes on their driveway to these people, clearly specialists who do it regularly, as the chap comments.

The problem is endemic to the Trafic/Vivaro range. There is no seal along the top edge of the scuttle. It is simply fixed across the base of the windscreem by 3 screws. Water runs down onto the engine where the injectors, in a trough on the cyl head, are awash.

This is my No4 injector :slightly_frowning_face:

For anyone who has this situation, this is how it is done by people who really know their onions. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6LyLCTXLDe0

Hopefully Sodiama are in that category.

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Silicon is often a common term for all sealants. Use a modified polymer sealant, if they must use silicon make sure its neutral cure (no acetal) or it will eat the panel in no time.

Hope your repair goes that well :+1:

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Thanks for that

I think/looks like the stuff used to seal the example on that vid is window bonding joillop. As it happens I have two tubes of that ready for the windows I will fit behind the cab.

By the by, I got an acknowledgement of my application to change my dr lic [75 yrs old! :persevere:] on 29/01, some time after they actually rec’d it from @kim .

It expires on 07/05. Inside one month and ticking.

Once again, FR bureaucracy is proving tardier than Spanish, which I continue to find remarkable.

Hi, just as an aside, I had one brake light fail on my Renault , it was diagnosed as an output component in the body computer! The cost??? My solution? Dump the electronics, disconnect the wiring from the brake switch and installed a 40A relay! Fortunately I’m (well) retired electronics technician but if I wasn’t it would mean economically scrapping the vehicle. It’s a mad mad world

Couldnt you connect the remaining working brake light to the failed side or did you have a dashboard light on?

Might work but modern units likely to be sealed and connected to the CAN bus and if the ECU can’t see two trail lights it might still show as a fault

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That is indeed truly bonkers. I have a brake light out on my Trafic. I hope it’s just the bulb :thinking: