French European Elections slant & UK gossip

I reckon someone was playing silly beggars… or your eyes were playing tricks…

No 20 is … Ensemble pour le Frexit

I’ve just been and checked our panels… nearly all are filled… about 6 or 7 remain empty… waiting for the officials of each missing-List to do the necessary.

I take it you mean Remain voters are apathetic and Leavers not?:wink:

No. I meant what I said.

Please stop putting words into my mouth/textbox.

The emoji was a hint that I was having a bit of fun Guy.

Guy - why ‘MISconstrued’? If as seems likely the ‘masses’ vote for Farage’s Brexit Party - there is the popular support of the majority surely? Then we have the very curious situation of the EU having an official batch of bastards dedicated to overthrowing the existence of the very place they will be drawing salaries from - just as His Foulness Farage is doing.

Then ‘the people will have been seen to speak’ so it also seems inevitable that Brexit does go through, then they won’t have seats to sit on!

Sorry, but on balance I prefer to see the UK gone.

Hi Norman - I saw a pretty universal disgust at both May and Corbin’s “interpretation” that the results of the local council elections represented a widespread desire to get on with it. Did you see John McDonald’s “Brexit - Sort it” tweet and the backlash that caused?

EU elections are not historically attended by the masses (http://www.ukpolitical.info/european-parliament-election-turnout.htm). A skewed pro brexit result would be abused by both parties.

Whether the EU is better without the UK is a good question. Personally my life would be much easier and I would be more secure financially if the UK remains in the EU, and that why I will continue to do what I can to support that position.

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My good news for the day was that when I went to the Mairie to check on my eligibility for voting, I saw lady that I’ve known, along with her husband, since I moved here; I explained why I was there, & she said that when you sell eggs in this village, you vote in this village…reference to my sign in front of the house, advertising my fresh eggs.
This, strangely, reassured me; along with the phone call I received a little later saying that my voting card would be sent in a day or so…

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:hugs: that’s a lovely local custom, by the sound of it… :upside_down_face::hugs:

I have to say Stella, I do feel a part of this village ; I know more people than I actually realized.
Despite all the negative stuff connected with the B word, I don’t feel I could live anywhere else.

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Maybe Nige is right?:grinning:

Does the :slight_smile: mean we are not supposed to take you seriously again?

Unfortunately, Tim, most of us cannot write well enough to ensure our point is clear and unambiguous. Sarcasm and irony do not work well on forums like this.

Re what I think is your point, no he’s not, but there is a growing realisation that the EU has to change - which could be the only good thing to come out of Brexit.

[edit] It occurs to me that I have no idea which of Nige’s pearls of wisdom you mean! Is it his comments on the NHS (https://www.theneweuropean.co.uk/top-stories/led-by-donkeys-brexit-party-campaign-1-6053529)?[/edit]

NF has said several times that the EU is broken beyond repair, I was merely suggesting that this survey shows others agree with him.

Ok, thanks for clarifying.

Ditto here, and I was having eye problems when I thought it was Brexit not Frexit.

Whilst it is normal to consider the UK and France as this is where most of us find ourselves, I am genuinely more concerned at what could easily become a Fascist-led EU.
Even if Foul Farage doesn’t actually take his seat with others of his Party as Brexit grinds remorselesly to its’ inevitable departure (in my opinion). Look at the countries with either Fascist or Extreme Nationalist Governments, and those with enough extreme Right-Wing groups who could win seats in a wave of populism. It makes grim reading - all stoked by the Brexit fire - and pig-ignorance.
UK
Germany
France
Spain,
Italy
Poland
Hungary
Czech Republic
Austria

I am not suggesting each country will suffer these creeps winning, BUT there is an open ‘alliance’ already in the making, which COULD be the largest bloc of votes, and then what?

Already we have seen the masses being manipulated into blaming the EU for all ills, to the point of wanting ‘out’. Two curious polls this week have summed it up for me, and I may have the actual percentages wrong, but the thrust is the same.

Something like 30% believe the EU will collapse within 20 years, but
a HUGE majority also say they will be worse off if this happens!

One historical and event recent fact might be the salvation, and that is the Nationalists in every country are directed and run by egocentric extremists. Nationalist Leaders by definition are not democratic and very prone to fight amongst themselves Note Farage V UKIP, Le Pen V Phillipott, AFD splits and so on. It will be hard to see a mass of egocentric Nationalists working together in the EU structure, expecially when the only thing they all want - the destruction of the EU, is the one thing that will destroy their own countries and electoral bases.

Still not much to hang an optimistic hat on though, is it? Equally likely is them ending up at War with each other. It has happened before.

You can see why far-right groups/parties are gaining support across Europe. Many of the countries had/have socialist governments that have not tackled unemployment or poverty so people are looking in the opposite direction of the political spectrum for answers.

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a shiver runs down my spine when I think of the prospect of Führer Farridge and his cronies ethnically cleansing Europe… :pleading_face:

His wife and children have German nationality, so they will be ok.

I must admit that I find the often negative connotations associated with the word ‘Populism’ to be rather confusing. When a particular political party is elected to power, is it not precisely because their policies are popular with the majority of voters ? Therefore, is not every candidate seeking to be popular with the voters ? Surely the candidate who ends up being elected is indeed the one who is the most popular.
Sometimes it seems to me that when politicians start using the word ‘Populism’ in a denegrating way, that it is because they themselves belong to the ‘we know best’ club who have little, if any, interest in actually representing the desires of their own electorate.
Just seems to me to be an odd way to run a democracy.

The actual word is okay, its the addition of the phrase ‘right-wing’ that is the problem.:wink: