French order on Britons' no-deal rights is now law

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Not for the better though.

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This is extremely worrying, not just for the people involved but for us as it seems that the fairness of these systems will be judged and reciprocated by France and we might very well end up being punished for the idiocy of the UK government.

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I think even the most ardent royalist would probably see that I wasn’t being 100% serious
but then this is the internet & we will never speak face to face, & therefore, you will obviously not see that my tongue was fairly & squarely in my cheek.
But enjoy your weekend anyway


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Anyone else seen that there could be a high cost to obtaining any residency card following a ‘no-deal’ Brexit?

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Are you talking about the present cost for those
 “coming from a non-UE country” ?? being applied to UK folk after B*******

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Yes, but this seems only to apply if there’s ‘no-deal’.

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Let’s face it
 if there is No Deal
 UK and UK folk will become “Others”
 that is for the future


Those of us who are here, have time to get ourselves “registered” CdS
 within the timescale, regardless (that is how I read it)
 and doesn’t it say, somewhere, that dossiers which are under scrutiny will not be affected by any subsequent downgrading tit-for-tat between the countries


So those of us here, have a sort of “guarded timescale”
to get the CdS, but I may have misread/misunderstood
 .

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The French text I’ve seen seems to imply that even those who already have a CDS will have to swap for a new card but that will come at a cost.

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Tim
 I agree that everyone already here will have to gain or swap
 but what is this cost you are talking about
??

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This is pulled from another forum -

Charges for the carte:

La premiĂšre dĂ©livrance des titres de sĂ©jour dĂ©livrĂ©s aux ressortissants britanniques et aux membres de leur famille dans les conditions fixĂ©es par le prĂ©sent chapitre donne lieu Ă  la perception de la taxe prĂ©vue Ă  l’article L. 311-13 du code de l’entrĂ©e et du sĂ©jour des Ă©trangers et du droit d’asile, dont le montant est fixĂ© par dĂ©cret entre les montants figurant dans la derniĂšre phrase du premier alinĂ©a du A du mĂȘme article.
Leur renouvellement et la fourniture de duplicatas donnent lieu Ă  la perception de la taxe dans les conditions de droit commun fixĂ©es au B du mĂȘme article, y compris pour l’accĂšs Ă  la carte de rĂ©sident dans les conditions prĂ©vues aux II et IV de l’article 3.

A. - La dĂ©livrance d’un premier titre de sĂ©jour figurant parmi ceux mentionnĂ©s aux 3° Ă  5° de l’article L. 311-1 donne lieu Ă  la perception, d’une taxe dont le montant est fixĂ© par dĂ©cret entre 150 euros et 280 euros. Ces limites sont respectivement ramenĂ©es Ă  55 euros et 70 euros pour les Ă©trangers auxquels est dĂ©livrĂ©e une carte de sĂ©jour au titre des articles L. 313-7, L. 313-7-1 et L. 313-7-2, du 9° de l’article L. 313-11, et du 3° de l’article L. 314-11. Elles sont ramenĂ©es Ă  100 euros et 170 euros pour les Ă©trangers entrĂ©s en France au titre du regroupement familial en tant qu’enfants mineurs.

Ces dispositions ne sont pas applicables aux Ă©trangers qui sollicitent un titre de sĂ©jour au titre des 2° bis, 10° et 11° de l’article L. 313-11, de l’article L. 313-13 et des 4°, 5°, 6°, 8° et 9° de l’article L. 314-11 ni aux travailleurs temporaires et saisonniers mentionnĂ©s au 2° de l’article L. 313-10 et Ă  l’article L. 313-23. La dĂ©livrance d’un visa de long sĂ©jour valant ou dispensant de titre de sĂ©jour donne lieu, outre les droits de visa prĂ©vus par la rĂ©glementation en vigueur, Ă  la perception de la taxe correspondant au titre de sĂ©jour que ce visa remplace.

B. - Le renouvellement des titres de sĂ©jour autres que ceux dĂ©livrĂ©s aux Ă©trangers titulaires d’un contrat de travail saisonnier et aux retraitĂ©s mentionnĂ©s, respectivement, aux articles L. 313-23 et L. 317-1, ainsi que la fourniture de duplicata donnent lieu Ă  la perception d’une taxe dont le montant est fixĂ© par dĂ©cret, selon la nature et la durĂ©e du titre, entre un minimum Ă©gal Ă  55 euros et un maximum Ă©gal Ă  250 euros. Ces limites sont respectivement ramenĂ©es Ă  15 euros et 30 euros pour les Ă©trangers auxquels est dĂ©livrĂ©e une carte de sĂ©jour d’une durĂ©e d’un an au plus au titre de l’article L. 313-7. La taxe de renouvellement n’est acquittĂ©e qu’une fois par pĂ©riode d’un an.

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Good grief
 more studying
 thanks for the info, but it will have to wait


(yet another neighbour has popped her clogs
 and I am needed elsewhere
)

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Oh heck Stella sorry to hear that! Remember to fit your own oxygen mask before helping others! A little rule we live by in aviation - essentially don’t forget to look after yourself so that you can help others :wink:

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Any chance of translating this for the members who are not fluent in French, like me. Or at least giving us an outline of what it says. Not everyone has the language skills or, like me is lucky enough to have a French partner.

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Yes, @cat mentioned that, can you elucidate Catharine?

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Actually - that post (from another forum) is totally out of context. It would be much better to provide a link to an official document / source.

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Not sure I understand Simon, either it’s correct or it’s not.

https://www.legifrance.gouv.fr/affichCodeArticle.do?cidTexte=LEGITEXT000006070158&idArticle=LEGIARTI000020032356&dateTexte=&categorieLien=cid

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Copy and paste into Google translate maybe?

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Madame Wood is my tranductrice and far more reliable than google Mandy - and she only costs a nice glass or two of chilled Burgundy.

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Try Deepl - better than Google translate

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tak, ja rĂłwnieĆŒ preferuję gƂębokoƛć

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