French social care for elderly

You’re right, but that subject was scuppered right from the outset by the nurse saying that was a different department. :roll_eyes: But they did suggest asking the doctor for a mechanical bed which would be free, they said.

I have to be brief at the moment because we have much to do before the hospital today, forms to fill in etc., but the upshot of the meeting was that a femme de menage would come in once a fortnight from January, the initial contact via Marie-Paule who was with us yesterday to ‘translate’ for me.

Just after they left my phone rang and it was the hospital saying that she has to be there at 1pm today for a scan before her rdv with the surgery department at 4pm. If only they had rung before M-P left she could have taken the call for me but it was pouring with rain and I certainly wasn’t going to call her back. So instead of having much time for everything today we now have to leave at 11.30am with no assurance that we won’t be hanging about for 2 hours before she can book in at 4pm. I am hoping, if only for the sake of the dogs, who will be waiting in the car, that they will take responsability for her to pass her on straight away.

She knows where we are going today, but not sure how much of why that she understands. I am really worried that, if I have to leave her passport, cds and cv with her they may get lost in the system, like the still missing document confirming ALD the last time,. I will put them in a small closable clear bag with her name on it as well as mine and my mobile number, and hope for the best.

Good luck today

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Thank you, to all of course. :slightly_smiling_face: More later. :wink:

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Good luck and take care today.

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Just catching up. I hope today goes well xx

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I hope everything went well for you and Fran today, David.

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It did, though it was tiring. To start with I pressed the right button in the lift and walked out with confidence only to find out we were back where we started. As we came out someone else took our place and 1 minute later she came out again muttering il ne marche pas. So it wasn’t just me. :roll_eyes:

We got to the scanner place eventually, well in advance of the appointment and were quickly taken in by a young man who spoke very good English. After she had ‘cooked’ for a while we resettled her on the wheelchair but as both me and another assistant bent to unlock the brakes the large rigid peak of my cap, worn because it was raining when we set out, gave him a sharp whack on the head. As we left he was being wheeled into the scanner. ONLY JOKING!! We were directed to the lifts to take us to the floor for her installation. 2 and a half hours early, they directed us apologetically to the waiting room where we settled down. It was very warm in there and before long someone else came in to see if we were alright and I replied in the affirmative but asked if there was water available anywhere. She left to find out and 2 minutes later another person appeared with a small tray on which were 4 packets of biscuits, 2 yoghurt pots, 2 pots of fruit puree, a small jug of water and 2 glasses. We settled down for a lovely picnic in the otherwise empty room. After some other people arrived, including an old man walking with assistance and who turned out to be waiting for an ambulance, one of the staff returned for the tray and asked Fran if she wanted a hot drink. She indicated coffee and the next question was ‘with sugar, how many, 1, 2, 3,4,5,6?’ to add to the general hilarity someone else said, also in English ‘100’. She got her hot coffee, with 2 sugars. :grinning_face_with_smiling_eyes:

Smack on the dot of 4.30 a nurse arrived to take charge of the wheelchair and, indicating to me to follow, set off at a blistering pace, it was all I could do to keep up and, at one point, they were out of my sight around one of the many corners. Eventually we arrived at a large private room with its own bathroom, the type I recognised from my own sojourn in that hospital many years ago.

After all the documentation was taken care of, and all the answers I had given on the questionaire were repeated, another nurse, who spoke English, came to complete the process and to inform us that she would be operated on at 8 this morning but she doubted she would come home the same day, Possibly Friday, and by ambulance. We said our goodbyes and it struck me as I lowered her mask for the last kiss that I saw for a fleeting moment the line- free smiling face with its blue eyes and still evident blond hair that I remembered from 60 years ago. She was smiling as I left and I wondered just how much of all this she understood, she seemed perfectly calm and relaxed in this strange environment.

Back down the hill to the car, which I had left 4 hours earlier, the dogs did not see me coming. Jules was fast asleep and Noubia sitting up but looking the other way. They only sprang into action, despite my nose pressed against the window, when they heard the click of the doors unlocking. I decided to drive straight home rather than struggle to get them out one by one, I wasn’t worried about their ability to last out for another hour, Dobermanns have famously iron bladders and that proved to be the case.

One strange thing before leaving Perigueux, I lined up to take advantage of the cheap diesel at Intermarche, but, after waiting some time and eventually getting the cap off and the card in, realised that I couldn’t remember the pin. :astonished: Rather than risk losing it, and as I wasn’t desperate, I got back in and drove home without refuelling. I remembered the number when we were halfway home. :roll_eyes:

I will phone this afternoon to see how things went. M-P phoned me after seeing our return and will probably ring herself I think.

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Thank you so much David for your post. Just so lovely to hear how well you were both taken care of yesterday. I’m not surprised you could not remember your PIN. The huge weight of responsibility and concern you are carrying means that all of your mental and psychic energy are being used in other ways. Hope you are able to relax and take care of yourself and that all goes well over the coming days.
The wheelchair sounds a real boon! :two_hearts:

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Glad everything went well and the hospital was organised, you were well cared for and Fran was ok when you left, at least there is progress now.
We hope everything goes ok today and we will be thinking of you, you take care of yourself today and have a rest, you deserve it, please take it easy today as you have the chance to recharge your batteries as your health is as important as Fran’s.
Colin

Thank you Sue and Colin, not quite taking it easy today, dogs to be looked after and their 1st walk (and my run, chasing disappearing lines in between the trees) in several days, and I have to go down the Mairie, and perhaps the next village on, this afternoon to see if they know of any B&Bs as my son is due to arrive for a few days next week. But I did get my first swim in several days, because of all the rain it is much deeper now, almost up to the highest point where it would seep into the surrounding ground. Icy but very invigorating. That is the contribution to my health. :wink: :grinning_face_with_smiling_eyes:

BTW, not so much all I have had to think about though that might be part of it, forgetting my pin, but also increased use of sans contact and the fact that, as I don’t travel anymore, I haven’t filled the tank in months. :rofl:

Very impressed with the hospital though, really, really clean, and so quiet. During our searches of seemingly endless corridors we hardly saw another person. Everyone so kind and patient, even the bloke at the revised entrance where we now have to show pass sanitaires, gave me a mask because I had forgotten mine in the car. That could have been a problem though, preventing me from returning to the car, because I completely forgot about the fact that it was still in the drop off zone. Only remembered when we were waiting with our ticket for the admission booth, so I rushed down and parked it and arrived back to find our number still ‘live’ and a women with a droopy mask waiting patiently for her customer. To make up for not being fully masked she had her screen firmly blocking any sight of her, difficult enough in French, more so wearing masks, but even more so talking to a disembodied voice. As I left though I peeked round it and got a smile as my reward. :rofl:

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Lovely post David :hugs:
I’m pleased that Fran will be discharged soon, because, as of yesterday Clinic Francheville Perigueux, has stopped all regular visitations, not sure of other hospitals.

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No visitors, at all? Really bad for long term patients and their families. I was half surprised that they allowed me to wander about at CHP yesterday and I deliberately didn’t ask about visiting, thinking she was coming back out soon.

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So pleased it went well…and you “glimpsed” your old Fran. Hospitals look and smell pretty similar all over Europe, so it may well be that her memory bank recognised it as somewhere familiar and so she won’t be alarmed.

Rest well.

If you google nearest office de tourisme they will have lists of B&Bs. Or look on here:

https://www.chambres-hotes.fr/

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I was looking to replace my own electric bed as we were having problems with the handset, mine is almost twenty years old.
I noticed immediately that they are all very low to the ground and it would make getting out of bed impossible for a person with restricted mobility.
Fortunately, OH managed to find a new heavy duty cable, not pretty but it works and the bed, with a new mattress carries on beautifully.

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You can get replacement controllers for them as they are mostly the same type, right back to the old serial port connector type.
You can get raised/adjustable feet for the beds so it’s not much of a problem height wise as you can make them as high as you like, on the cheaper beds they are always going to want to save some money, so the base height is the the easiest way.

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I’ve been thinking about you both…this bought a tear to my eye and choked me up …:heart:

Have you looked at wheelchair ramps…??? I don’t know how steep your access is but there does seem to be a few options not too expensive…???

The only visitors allowed are to end of life patients.
I looked at CHP and only the normal covid safety procedures listed :woman_shrugging:

Thanks again to all of you for all the thoughts and useful information. The news this evening is that the operation went well and that she will be coming home tomorrow afternoon by ambulance. There is of course no mention of time, I know from before how difficult they find searching for transport but I will be here all the time.

We have our 3rd jabs booked with the doctor next Tuesday so will have the opportunity to bring up the subject of electric beds, rising chairs and ramps. She may not want to discuss all this at a ‘free’ visit but at least we will be there to make the first appointment to do so.

I have had some ideas of my own. With a little effort on my part and without any cost, I could clear the way for a wheelchair from the opposite end of the terrasse to the steps, where it is the same level as the rising ground. This has been dismissed before because the ground is uneven, but with a chair very possible.

Also, but requiring a reliable builder, the end of the bathroom containing the bidet and toilet, could be enlarged to double its width by moving the wall further into the kitchen. This would allow even a wheelchair to go right in. The space in our kitchen could be spared by re-organising some things which I have already started. Perhaps there is assistance towards the cost of this which would be useful.

Finally the chair, when this was first suggested the other day, it was not completely welcomed as she spends most of her time in the sunny south facing kitchen and a chair this size could not be transferred to the other room where we take our meals. However, the changes to the layout for an enlarged bathroom would make a rising chair in the kitchen impossible. Time for some discussions and decisions perhaps and maybe if this operation is a success some mobility problems may be relieved somewhat.

@JaneJones I was alerted to an airbnb cottage in the village and went through the process of checking possible dates and emailing the owner, through the site, as I think I know her from a year or so ago. As soon as I got off the site I messaged Davey who at this moment is in the air between Bangkok and London promising to send him contact details if he was interested. No sooner had I done so when there was an email from airbnb saying the ‘booking’ had been declined. Didn’t stop a flurry of emails welcoming me to the ‘community’ and demanding a photo of me no less. This time it was me who declined. :grinning_face_with_smiling_eyes:

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Good to hear everything went well with Fran and your getting her home :sunglasses: Are you able to use the wheelchair indoors to get her around, thinking about door size.

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