Good grief.... I agree with Gavin Williamson and the Telegraph

What on earth are you going on about? To precis the comment I replied to you were advocating banning people who didn’t talk about France. To quote.

Seems pretty clear to me unless my understanding of English has suddenly departed me.

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Right, can we ALL please read what we type BEFORE posting and ask ourselves:
Is this helpful?
Is this constructive?
Can it be misconstrued?
Is it likely to upset someone?

And last but not least, is it going to piss Cat off who is now effectively having to referee a bunch of adults on a Sunday?

Because if so, it is going to lead to a ban. I am not going to waste a lovely sunny day monitoring arguing SF members.

Over and out.

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Plus many of us have grandchildren being educated in UK.

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Apologies Cat if I’m one of those you are talking about (expect I am)!! Will keep schtum :shushing_face:

And the more unreasonable and physically/chemically impossible it is the greater the faith - and rather than thinking poor deluded person get help, we’re supposed to accept and admire and not criticise because faith is special.
I really, really, wouldn’t object to it so much if it weren’t so completely bloody-minded petty and corrosive, I mean fights to the death about the supposed nature of imaginary friends, puhleeease.
And grades of imaginary beings: if you admit one admit them all! So illogical :thinking:

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It was a jokey reference relating to this post from a few days ago, and the discussion that came after.

Sorry you didn’t get the reference, but it’s not my fault that you didn’t understand something then chose to respond in a dismissive fashion.

I’ve said before and will say again that I truly think a whole year of covid with its lockdowns and restrictions is getting to some people and they’re just spoiling for a fight. Anyway. It is what it is, so let’s get back to the topic at hand, which was the school actually since you pointed me to the thread title, not Tower Hamlets multiculturalism. Not that I will get back to it as I have it muted now.

I guess that’s the French boudin noir and thin rashers…tasty but not quite up to Yorkshire back bacon and Bury black puddin’… abtw. does any one know how to get or if available here a gammon rasher…the thing you eat with eggs and chips…not the other kind!

We can agree those (quite obviously) aren’t logical equivalents. People with a faith (in general) don’t believe in something because it can’t be disproved any more than, say, Socialists believe in Socialism because it can’t be disproved.

Well, I guess we could say that about politics, too: there are so many different views that “obviously” none of them is correct, because they all conflict with each other.

There’s a hint in the Christian bible which addresses the point: we all have an understanding that what we see is not all there is. Christians would say the other religions are a reaching towards the truth.
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Well, I sort of agree. I don’t think anyone in this thread has gone so far as the simplistic “religion is responsible for all sorts of evils”, but you’e right that some political people have a tendency to co-opt religion as a justification for their beliefs and actions - Crusades, Troubles, you name it.

It’s quite a far cry from loving God and your neighbour, isn’t it?

I think there are English butchers who will send you such things along with pork pies etc.
Google.

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One could say that Stalin persecuted his own people with a religious zeal in the name of Marxist-Leninism and that he had faith that he was right.

Hi John, brilliant thread drift! To answer your question, I used to get back bacon from the local butcher who would cure and smoke his own but it was often a bit salty and a bit dry so would soak it for half an hour and it would be just like a proper rasher. Alternatively, there are some Brit farmers in the UK who supply bacon and sausages etc in the British “style” and you can find them with a google search. Found this one although never used them so no idea of quality.
Hope that helps.
Izzy x

We had bacon from these guys for lunch today - it was excellent, first back Bacon in 2 years.

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I got bacon a few times from a supplier in the North of France but can’t remember what they were called. It was more than 13 years ago though. They also used to sell sausages and pork pies and scotch eggs. Must try and find them online. Not for me, back in the UK now, but others may be interested.
Izzy x

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IMO it is totally unacceptable to pander to religious extremists. Where would it end, angry Scientologists, rampaging moon worshipers, protesting pastafarians? Either allowances are made for all religions or none, and I vote none.

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Very bad for you :flushed: Sodium nitrite… ohhhh. Far better a naturally “cured” sanglier rasher. There’s a couple of buggers that keep getting into my garden that are going end that way pretty soon.

I’m sure you’ve heard the old joke… What’s the difference between involved and committed? A hen is involved the the preparation of a full English breakfast, the pig is committed.

That is exactly what the Education Nationale thinks.

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I think it is THE only sensible solution Vero. Anything else is free for all chaos where religious militants are rewarded.

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I agree - but remember my previous post: this is easily said in a properly secular society like France - it would be very contentious and divisive in the UK context, and would certainly raise constitutional etc issues too.

Batley Grammar School is not a grammar school; It appears to be a Free School so much loved by the likes of Toby Young and friends. I would think that they only held on to the name because it would sound better than Batley Academy. If I remember correctly Religious Education is required to form part of the National Curriculum but its content is defined locally by some sort of board and is intended to reflect the locality. Mr Kibble or Whibble or whatever his name is preferred throwing one of his staff under a bus rather than rocking the Academy boat.

Don’t do my size Ducky.