If we talk about the London Borough of Tower Hamlets, with a population of 250,000 or so, the size of a reasonably large town, then it is indeed majority non-white. The population is majority Bangladeshi. So not an insidious lie at all. Using the word insidious also suggests this is a bad thing!
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I don’t think Tim is the least bit racist
It’s the lie that is insidious, as you of course know full well. I’m sure, as I said, you can find neighbourhoods in larger towns and cities that fit any political agenda - but, again as I said, it’s meaningless.
(If you’re using the 2011 census data, by the way, you need to look into those figures further, because the ‘other’ ethnicities in the census are not all ‘non-white’.
But a detailed argument about the demographics in one area of London does not impact on any of the points being made here - and it’s not going to interest most Survive Francers, is it?)
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What?! I’m just commenting on what others, and you, are already talking about so I guess it does interest some of you at least.
Political. What’s that supposed to mean? I’m quoting facts, as per the 2011 census. 45% of the Tower Hamlets population is “white” whether that be British, Irish or other white nationality and 55% is Asian, black or other ethnic minority. You can read a political slant into facts if you want.
I was merely responding to your statement that:
which is factually incorrect. I can find others if you want but that would be very inconvenient for you. Oh, and in Tower Hamlets only 31% are “white British” which makes them very much in the minority.
All here if you’re interested. Scroll down to Ethnicity.
Hardly a neighbourhood, Geof, at 250,000 people so not meaningless at all.
Ugh.
When are we starting those 12 month bans for people who don’t talk exclusively about France? As these threads go on and people keep talking I’m starting not to wonder if that bloke was in fact an intellectual genius with that idea… 
You can always mute them.
I LOVE the chat here - even when it goes round in circles. I do think lockdown is getting to me though. 
Scroll past it Kirstea if it’s boring you. The content of this thread has a clue in the title so you could have just ignored it altogether…
Plenty of other topics on here about France but even those often have UK references. When most people on here are from the UK it’s almost inevitable.
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Hasn’t he been banned for being boring 
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Yes his arguments are almost as flimsy as the lingerie from Agent Provocateur.
I can only assume from that reply you have entirely, completely, misunderstood my point and so just said what you were already thinking, which is fine, but trying to belittle me by telling me to just ‘not look’ when that’s not the issue isn’t really at all helpful.
It was not about it boring me, I’m not a child with a non-existent attention span, but rather about some of the… ‘views’ on display. I am reminded of the old adage ’Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and to remove all doubt.’ Bit difficult on an Internet forum where if people did that we’d all just be sitting at a blank screen I appreciate, but still worth keeping in the back of our minds as we all post.
Anyway, perhaps the mute function is wise.
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Oh get over yourself Geof, you know full well what I’m driving at. In certain parts of the UK the ‘not-white’, ‘not Christian’ or ‘not born in the UK’ part of the local population are now the majority which is the essence of this thread surely. Batley Grammar School was started in the 1600’s yet in the space of just a couple of decades the majority of it’s pupils now are Muslim and this poses issues for the school in trying to balance teaching the National Curriculum whilst also trying not to offend a large part of the local population. Rightly or wrongly schools cannot just blindly follow the NC without thinking about the racial/religious mix within the school as well otherwise problems arise as witnessed lat week.
I take it you’re wearing some now David? 
What on earth are you going on about? To precis the comment I replied to you were advocating banning people who didn’t talk about France. To quote.
Seems pretty clear to me unless my understanding of English has suddenly departed me.
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Right, can we ALL please read what we type BEFORE posting and ask ourselves:
Is this helpful?
Is this constructive?
Can it be misconstrued?
Is it likely to upset someone?
And last but not least, is it going to piss Cat off who is now effectively having to referee a bunch of adults on a Sunday?
Because if so, it is going to lead to a ban. I am not going to waste a lovely sunny day monitoring arguing SF members.
Over and out.
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Plus many of us have grandchildren being educated in UK.
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Apologies Cat if I’m one of those you are talking about (expect I am)!! Will keep schtum 
And the more unreasonable and physically/chemically impossible it is the greater the faith - and rather than thinking poor deluded person get help, we’re supposed to accept and admire and not criticise because faith is special.
I really, really, wouldn’t object to it so much if it weren’t so completely bloody-minded petty and corrosive, I mean fights to the death about the supposed nature of imaginary friends, puhleeease.
And grades of imaginary beings: if you admit one admit them all! So illogical 
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It was a jokey reference relating to this post from a few days ago, and the discussion that came after.
Sorry you didn’t get the reference, but it’s not my fault that you didn’t understand something then chose to respond in a dismissive fashion.
I’ve said before and will say again that I truly think a whole year of covid with its lockdowns and restrictions is getting to some people and they’re just spoiling for a fight. Anyway. It is what it is, so let’s get back to the topic at hand, which was the school actually since you pointed me to the thread title, not Tower Hamlets multiculturalism. Not that I will get back to it as I have it muted now.
I guess that’s the French boudin noir and thin rashers…tasty but not quite up to Yorkshire back bacon and Bury black puddin’… abtw. does any one know how to get or if available here a gammon rasher…the thing you eat with eggs and chips…not the other kind!
We can agree those (quite obviously) aren’t logical equivalents. People with a faith (in general) don’t believe in something because it can’t be disproved any more than, say, Socialists believe in Socialism because it can’t be disproved.
Well, I guess we could say that about politics, too: there are so many different views that “obviously” none of them is correct, because they all conflict with each other.
There’s a hint in the Christian bible which addresses the point: we all have an understanding that what we see is not all there is. Christians would say the other religions are a reaching towards the truth.
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Well, I sort of agree. I don’t think anyone in this thread has gone so far as the simplistic “religion is responsible for all sorts of evils”, but you’e right that some political people have a tendency to co-opt religion as a justification for their beliefs and actions - Crusades, Troubles, you name it.
It’s quite a far cry from loving God and your neighbour, isn’t it?