Yes, just as Germany said, Canada recently said, etc. Maybe we should post all the countries that were unsure of the AZ effectiveness instead of just singling out Manu 
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Have I missed something? As far as Iām aware proper clinical trials have shown the AZ vaccine to be less effective than others.
I know the UK government and media have moved the goalposts by reporting that it is effective at reducing hospitalisations, and transmission, but these are rather different from the original clinical trial criteria. Has there been a new clinical trial?
How many vaccine threads are we going to have?
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One for each variant? I bags Pfizer 
Iām getting clinical trials and studies fatigue. Is there a vaccine against that? Anyway, in theory Iām getting the AZ tomorrow. Iāve made my wife promise that if I subsequently contract Covid and die then sheāll post a posthumous āI told you soā here for me.
A bit like Spike Milliganās āI told you I was sickā epitaph on his headstone (which he had to have inscribed in Irish due to the cemeteryās managementās intransigence.
Yea - thatās the same āmoved goalpostsā report Iāve seen - itās about prevention of āserious illnessā - ie. hospitalisation.
It should (according to reports) prevent you actually dying John - well, of covid, anyway - but you might still catch it!
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Except everyone was talking about what Macron said so thatās why I posted it. Ronald Fox said above that he thought Macron had used the words quoted in the article et voilĆ .
If you want to post about all those other countries then go ahead.
Izzy x
I didnāt mean your post Izzy ,
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But the article doesnāt report that Macron said the vaccine is quasi-ineffective - the actual statement it attributes to him is very qualified:
āThe real problem on AstraZeneca is that it doesnāt work the way we were expecting it to,ā¦ Weāre waiting for the EMA [European Medicines Agency] results, but today everything points to thinking it is quasi-ineffective on people older than 65, some say those 60 years or older.ā
It would be interesting to know if he was speaking in English or French too.
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Sorry Izzy, Iām probably being pedantic and a pain but what Ron wrote wasā¦
What I was questioning was if Macron did say that and Iām still not sure he did. I enjoy the banter and different views here and Iām sure I get things wrong all the time but I do try to be factual.
Iām going to be 
patriotic and have Sanofi.
Oh.
Wellā¦
Errrā¦
Perhaps not.
No @John_Scully I was referring to this.
Just spotted that Johnson has one quality person on his teamā¦ (representing the stocker belt too 
)
Then he should have kept quiet until he knew instead of saying that! He knows how influential he is and look at the effect it has had!? He either knew what he was doing or is a complete idiot.
Izzy x
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Good luck, fingers crossed for you as my wife had it last Saturday, doc wouldnāt do me as Iām 65+, she was crock with flu like for 36 hours but i soon passed
corā¦ it affects spouses as well 
bon continuation and well before Easter too 
And even a resemblance!!
Oh Itās all going over my head now.
I may need a beard. I might photoshop myself when I get a moment.
I think I just spotted another Scully on CH4 commenting on the impact of climate change on a World Heritage site in Yorkshire. Weāre like busses, you wait for ages and then a bunch of us come along at the same time.