How's that going to work then?

Well, how wrong can I be!!! :grin: Except of course in the case of France we will be carted off to ChĆ¢teau dā€™If.

Stay safe, stay well and stay sane everyone.

That will only be if we run out of meat and have to do for one of our older hens!

So hereā€™s a question - do you need a new piece of paper every day you leave the house?

We think soā€¦

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We do too.

OKā€¦ this is how I am planning to tackle things. (although I plan to apply lockdown as much as humanly possible)

I shall prepare my piece of paper and go out (observing all the necessaries). If I am stopped by a hunky Gendarmeā€¦ I shall produce my piĆØce dā€™ identitĆ© and the paper (which I will sign/date on the spot)

If I am not stopped, the piece of paper can be used for the next occasionā€¦ and thus I will be doing my bit to save the forestsā€¦

If I am told that this will not doā€¦ then of course, I shall obeyā€¦ and let you know tooā€¦

I think itā€™s suppose to make you stop and think each time: Why am I going out? Do I need to?

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Iā€™m hoping thereā€™s some common sense here. We live in at the end of a private chemin and walk the dog every day through woods and vines never seeing another soul, whilst I donā€™t have an issue with having an attestation in my pocket at all times surely I havenā€™t got to write/print a new one every single day?

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Timā€¦ I reckon my idea will workā€¦ people with dogs etc have got to go outā€¦regularlyā€¦ just not in packsā€¦ :upside_down_face:

Donā€™t get me wrong here please. I completely accept that it is not all about me.
What I object to is being ordered to self isolate rather than being asked, especially when the overall long term outcome for the social and economic well being of the country is doubtful to say the least.

Self isolating is something I can easily do (and am well practised at) without long term adverse personal consequences.
However, what about all the incidents of domestic violence that will occur due to this policy of people being couped up together. What about all the people who will suffer extreme financial hardship because of this policy ? Businesses will fail, and masses of people are going to be left without income. Homes will be lost, properties repossessed, tenants evicted, and personal bankruptcies will soar. Yes, I know that rents are being suspended, but suspended does not mean cancelled, and they will still need to be paid in the end.

There is a very real risk that the long term effects of the control measures now in place will be far worse than allowing nature to run its course. Perhaps we need to consider the long term needs of the many, rather than the short term needs of the few.

Letā€™s also keep in mind that every year 10,000 people in France die of Flu, and that worldwide, 4000 people die of Tuberculosis (an entirely preventable affliction) every day, and no-one seems to care too much about that.

I venture to suggest that the UK response is the better one. Inform, advise, recommend, but let people make their choice, and then perhaps there will still be something resembling an economically viable nation state at the end of the day.

A Uk police officer friend of mine says they expect a decrease in assaults , a rise in domestics and a baby boom in nine months

Graham has posted a link : Coronavirus - Download travel attestation

Oh dear, oh dear! It was bad enough before you got to the flu comparisons. At least you have got a couple of weeks to read a bit and educate yourself so itā€™s not too bad. I repeat my earlier comment about being a police officer. In your case the gamekeeper has made a pretty good poacher.

So, the BBC are reporting that:

Fair enough.

Yup

Butā€¦

What a twat - at a stroke undermining the advice to over 70ā€™s to reduce social and work contacts. I am sure he could easily have set himself up to work from home when not actively required in the HoC

Could the adults take over now, please.

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Corbyn isnt the only oneā€¦

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UK PMā€™s father ā€˜would still go to the pubā€™

Stanley Johnson

PA MediaCopyright: PA Media

The Prime Ministerā€™s father has indicated he would ignore his sonā€™s advice to tackle the spread of coronavirus and still go to the pub.

Boris Johnson yesterday urged everyone to ā€œavoid pubs, clubs, theatres and other such social venuesā€, saying it was particularly important for people over 70.

But Stanley Johnson, 79, said: ā€œOf course Iā€™ll go to a pub if I need to go to a pub.ā€ Speaking on ITVā€™s This Morning, he said landlords ā€œdonā€™t want people to be not in the pub at allā€.

It seems stupidity runs in the familyā€¦

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but is he regarded as a vulnerable person? I somehow doubt so as he seems perfectly fit and healthy and acknowledged to be so.
If he shows no signs of COVID-19 then I am sure he will act responsibly - no worse than no-show blojo going to a football match at the weekend.

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Itā€™s not about him personally - itā€™s about image and message.

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Exactly,the Queen is cancelling events/ appearances JC should be following advice

Yes, but she is 93 +20 years on Jeremy Corbyn and more into the ā€œat riskā€ group.
Besides, she does fook all these days anyway so no real lossā€¦

Two points
A) Nowhere does it say that fit and healthy 70 year olds are exempt
B) As a high profile 70 year old he should be leading by example