I'm sorry he's resigned because---

what didn’t?

The little video clip

there were a few…

Andrea Jenkyns, “I responded and stood up for myself.” Probably not a very well-chosen explanation from a woman waving a single finger in the air…

Why are they all so thick and inarticulate?

Along with this dark money, comes a deeply extreme right wing ideology imported from the US. The ERG wasn’t just about Brexit but funded by an unholy alliance between Saudi, the Russians and most of the usual suspects in the States, like the Koch family, it wants a very different future for the UK , largely as a vassal state aligned completely with the US. So while no political party is ever, these days, white as the driven snow in this case voting for Labour would seem to be, by far, the lessor of two evils. Two thirds of the existing Tory cabinet are associated with the ERG and they’ve all read Ayn Rand.

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Not until Diane Abbott has gone.

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Your basing your objections on one person? really…when you have a whole bunch of objectional types on the other side.

I think Diane Abbott is vilified by the UK media for 2 simple reasons: racism and misogyny. I’ve never been able to find out anything negative about her that cant also be said about dozens of white privileged men - but which you never hear about.

Really, Diane Abbott should be celebrated as the first black woman elected to Parliament, and the longest-serving black MP. She is the daughter of a welder and a nurse, whose academic and life achievements from this modest background ought to be an example to us all - but Amnesty International has found that she has been the subject of almost half of all abusive tweets about female MPs - ten times more abuse than any other MP.

It is, simply, racism and misogyny.

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Some people were not too impressed when she appeared to be implying state schools were good enough for everybody whilst her own son was reported to attend a private school?

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I find her a bit of a Nancy Pelosi. You’re spot on that most of the criticism she gets is purely racism, sexism, or both. She’s actually achieved a heck of a lot and should be incredibly proud of what she’s achieved. But like Pelosi it probably really is time for her to take a step back from the limelight and let the newer (I won’t say younger) generation grab the mantle. Like Corbyn she will know that every time she coughs, sneezes or gets her sums wrong the right, which of course unfortunately includes almost all the traditional media, will have a field day so it’s perhaps better to keep schtum, be a strong influential voice from behind the scenes and to the very best for her constituents until she retires/ gets voted out. Unfortunately once the press smell blood you’re done for and so I’m not sure she’ll ever get the credit she truly deserves on a national level, but the young people seem to adore her, her can of mojito or whatever it was made her a national treasure with the under 40s, so at least there’s that :joy:

She has also said some spectacularly stupid things - though that does not distinguish her in today’s political field.

But none of those white men that you mention slept with Corbyn :slight_smile:

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How do you know?

By the way Billy, did you know that Sam Tarry, who just deliberately provoked Starmer to sack him, and is a close ally of Corbyn, is Angela Rayner’s partner? The plot thickens…

It does indeed.

I’m fairly certain Corbyn is strictly straight.

It’s a fascinating psychology on the right, isn’t it, that thinks it’s hypocritical to believe in an excellent state school system but send your son to a private school? You don’t hear many crying hypocrite when Tories say they believe in low tax / small state but go out on the public roads, do you? Nor do they publicly withhold their tax payments on principle. The standard they would hold socialists to is presumably that they should always use public transport, even when there aren’t any buses or trains going where they want to go?

The truth is, of course, that in these cases it is those making the charge of hypocrisy that are the real hypocrites. Everybody has to live in the real world, however much better they would like to make it - there is absolutely no inconsistency in advocating improvements to the school system but deciding, in your immediate circumstances, and in view of the individual needs of you own child, here and now, that the best path is an independent school. That is, indeed, what any good parent should do.

Orwell said pretty well the same thing, all those years ago.

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I’m sorry to disagree Geof but she gives me the pip. It’s not based on her race or her gender, I just don’t like her.

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Well, am I uninformed or what? :face_with_hand_over_mouth:

Or the thicks plotten?

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It’s often been said that if MP’s couldn’t use taxis or if the taxi lanes in London were closed and taxis had to use the same lanes as everyone else, public transport might improve.

So yeah, might apply to state schools too?

btw I do approve of grammar schools

Tarry is a Corbynite and got given a safe Labour seat in 2019, within a year he’s a Shadow minister whilst in a relationship with Rayner, pretty suspect if you ask me.