Yes €7000 buys a lot of servicing.
Just trying to check the new Twingo with the older version. The range of the car registered in 21/22 was 190km. Now I understand that as a battery gets older it’s range will get less so I wonder what the battery range would be like after 4 years?
If the battery only lasts 10 years maybe it’s not worth buying a 4 year old car?
Battery SoH (State of Health) will depend on how many charges it has had, how many were rapid, & previous driving behaviour.
Also, ambient temperature will have an effect on range - more distance is likely in warm conditions, less in winter.
The 40kWh hour actual driving range (not what the dash tells me) of my now 8 year old Nissan Leaf could be anything from below 200kms to around 240kms depending on time of year, terrain & overall speed. When it was delivered it had 278kms showing on the Guessometer; I’ve never managed to see that figure again, but have often seen over 250kms showing after a charge, but I would never contemplate trusting that. For working out long journeys I work on around 200km max. between stops/charges.
Who says they only last 10 years? After 8 years my oft-quoted Leaf 2.0 is showing no signs of being much difference in terms of range to when it was new.
Sadly the earlier & smaller (24 & 30kWh) Leaf batteries did much to undermine EVs in general, especially as the Leaf 1 was one of very few mass market EVs available 10 years ago.
All that changed with the 40kWh Leaf 2.0 & upwards, especially in northern Europe where ambient temperatures are not really an issue for the non-thermally managed batteries that they have.
Thanks @Badger that’s encouraging. I was told about the 10years by someone who works with batteries but not car batteries
Renault have just sold me a nearly 4 year old battery contained in my Zoe, and told me it’s Statement of Health (SoH) was a very healthy 93%. They thought the life of the battery would probably exceed the expected life of the car..
Therefore if I buy a second hand electric car they should be able to check the health of the battery.
Yes, it’s possible to get batteries checked and even given a certificate. I’ve seen a number of cars in the UK listed with a statement of battery health.
This is all fascinating: thanks for all the woo.
Predictive text: it should have been “wisdom”.
We know how to make you like us. ![]()
The reason the Twingo is cheap may be that a very much revised new Twingo is being lsunched around now.
A TroisGo?
TripletGo surely.
Would one pronounce the T or would it be silent?
I had intended to check the new Twingo at the dealers today but they won’t have any until June but they did still have the second hand one they were advertising for about €9000 4years old which should be mine in about three weeks. The battery has 98 per cent capacity mileage about 8000 km. The battery is guaranteed for another 4 years. The car is very easy and comfortable to drive though it feels like a toy after my old Xantia The only problem was I had hoped to pay for it over 4 years but that wasn’t possible as my carte de séjour only has two years left. So I’ve arranged to pay €4000 deposit and monthly payments of €250 for two years which I’m happy with. Anyway as usual thanks for all the advice and information. It helps a lot when making a fairly important decision. Hopefully it’s the last car I’ll ever buy
I went back to the car dealership with a French neighbour. I am afraid that he was not of much help. He thought that the salesman was legitimate. When I was hesitant about taking on insurance for death or catastrophic events. The neighbour said that I should take it. Whereas I have car insurance already.
I found out yesterday that my insurance covers only the car not the driver. So I will be paying two insurances. So I guess the neighbour was right.
What do you mean by this?
That if I have an accident and kick the bucket. The insurance will cover repayments for the car leasing. My children will not need to pay for it.