I have a ‘VPN’ that comes with my Bitdefender anti virus sub. It’s absolutely pants. It never worked with any of the players at all. It’s basically just an add on gimmick to give the marketers something else to talk about. Use a proper VPN or you will get nowhere.
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Amen to that. I ran across many of that sort in my career in subcontracts at the world’s largest defense contractor…
Hi. How far south are you? Maybe a bigger dish?
I had problems with a vpn on a firestick. I believe some work, some don’t.
Levpn worked for me in Spain.
Being another muddler John I think I know what is going on.
My Firestick was bought in France and arrived set up for French apps. I could not download Iplayer etc. After much trial and error I came to the following (right or wrong?) conclusion. The problem is not to do with Firestick itself. It is a question of where Amazon is told you are buying your digital media. I believe they are required to do this so they know under which country’s tax regime they need to apply their tax avoidance schemes :tounge in cheek emoji:
If I go on my Amazon.fr page and sign in, and look under “Accounts and lists” then select “Devices” I get the following screen shots.
You will see that when I click on the “Country” option the note in blue typeface says I buy my digital content in UK on Amazon.co.uk
I do not change my clock
I use a proper VPN i.e. Express VPN
I totally agree but I suspect there are one or two photographers on here that might disagree.
Edit: Would someone alert me if those Amazon hotlinks go to my personal account?
Thanks Badge. I only half know what I am doing.
Blimey - do you know me from a former life? There are very few people who use that moniker to me. Oddly I sent a long overdue email reply to one of them only yesterday, which is now slightly spooky…
We’re 40 miles from the Pyrennees in the south west corner, 40330. I’ve discovered that Astra 28.2 has become another channel or renamed and only covers northern France and some of central france.
On another issue, I have an old HP laptop mini that has never had Internet loaded. Is it possible to load this now, as I could then hook it up to my tv. I’ve used computers all my working life, but I have no experience of the finer art of how to modify them.
First of all , connect to the Internet…
I’m all in favour of people being compensated for their IP, it’s just lawyers overcomplicating things. The more complexity the higher the fees. And after that’s done, lets lash on another layer of complexity. There needs to be a worldwide clean up of T&Cs. Nobody actually reads the T&Cs we’re forced to click on, from airline tickets to buying printer ink. You could spend the rest of your life reading the T&Cs, and need a law degree to boot. The practice of forcing people to click yes to unreadable T&Cs should be outlawed. Except, I guess, the people that would draft the legislation to that are… lawers 
I must have another fiddle with the Firestick, NordVPN works fine on ot but I’ve still and iPlayer issue I think. (another bloody rights issue problem, I would happily pay the BBC licence fee to support them).
Those sorts of things with an Atom processor and no RAM are basically doorstops now. You can run Linux on it but there’s a learning curve.
Really? I would hope you are just being provocative for the sake of it, but you are discussing using a VPN to get round usage restrictions on TV programmes for which you don’t pay a penny, and you say you believe in people “being compensated”?
Also without those lawyers acting for the content providers and making sure their contracts are watertight, what do you imagine the big corporations would do? Pay people fairly out of the goodness of their hearts?
As it is, the vast majority of creative people get paid bugger all for what they make. For every Taylor Swift there are a million musicians on the breadline.
A typical payment to me (after everybody else has had their slice) for the use of one of my photographs via Shutterstock is ten cents US. Ten cents. And that lets someone use it anywhere they like in perpetuity.
So yeah let’s fire all the lawyers and let everyone do what they like with intellectual property.
If that happens there won’t be any TV for you to watch or music to listen to before long, apart from AI-generated crap.
Unfortunately not. I do have a keyboard with a dodgy “R”
keyboad?
Well spotted. I also have dodgy dyslexic moments. 
Don’t be annoyed Chris. I am never provocative for the sake of it. Why the Hell would I be? I just say what I think based on my life experience. You’re shooting the messenger (but it’s only a flesh wound 
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You miss my point completely, though you reenforce it 
That’s your (and other IP owners) problem, not the end user. Lawyers are a large and generally useless part of the slice taking overhead. You may not be that experienced in dealing with corporate lawyers, sadly I am, I I have no doubt that my assessment of their value add would be shared by thousands, if not tens of thousands of executives.
BTW, many of my closest friends are lawyers, all wealthy some very wealthy, God bless 'em, though none in the IP, arena, which is probably the biggest scam of all.
That’s what I was hoping and thanks for confirmation.
Apparently, there are patent trolls and copyright trolls. These are lawyers doing the equivalent of ambulance chasing.
I vaguely remember in the dim and distant past when I took out a patent, I received an offer “to look after the patent”. For a fee, a company would make sure the patent rights were not infringed and take action if they were.
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@Jofang (the quote function isn’t working for me)
For viewers located in the South of France, the minimum required dish size is 130 to 150 cm in diameter according to here:-
I imagine if you search online, you will find instances of people saying exactly what they receive with certain dishes.
That website, which is NOT an official freesat one, suggests an online box which you would pay for. Still illegal I would venture.