Annexation is undoubtably the plan. For the West Bank also.
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I hear this morning that the Yanks are trying to take some credit for killing the latest Hamas leader and at the same time hinting strongly that it is their intelligence (a word so often mis-used) that have revealed some of the previous commanders.
I would advise them to be careful what they brag about bearing in mind that the death of one Resistance Leader is frequently accompanied by the slaughter of tens, maybe hundreds, of innocent men, women and children.
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Agreed, but without the yanks it will not happen, the Jews either own or control much of the banking and finance houses /entertainment / news and film industry in the USA , it does not matter who the president is, it is who pulls the strings that matter
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Exactly.
I saw a programme the other day about the Martyr Village, Oradour sur Glane, a place I have visited many times. A detachment of SS troops, slaughtered almost all the inhabitants, including herding many women and children into the church where they set off incendiary explosives burning all but one woman to death. They then set fire to the whole village.
The aerial view of the village today, it has never been rebuilt, reminded me of the sight of Gaza today and the fact that the French Resistance whom the Nazis called terrorists (ring a bell?), never gave up and continued to harry them all the way north to Normandy where many were killed after D-Day.
Donât Israelis ever read books?
Donât they see parallels with their own plight in history?
Do they really think they can bomb and burn and shoot a whole population out of existance?
The fact that they are alive today after all the Nazis did to eliminate them as a race should tell them the answer to that.
There are non so blind as those who will not see 
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Please forgive if Iâve posted this before, but if you can, watch Blue Box on BBC Four.
You will of course need a vpn if youâre outside the UK.
Good post David.
I took my son and daughter there when they were only 5 years old. They now have children of their own and still talk about it.
Mind you , you could say the same thing about Hamas or Hezbolla, or Russia or anyone else who thinks bombing women and children will solve a problem.
Unfortunately there are many who only see and hear one side of a story and are blind to any other narrative, any one who watches any news coverage of the conflict in Gaza and adjoining countries will (or should ) be able to see that the Israelis have no respect for the lives of anyone who is not Jewish and will use extreme force to kill as many of those that oppose there ideology aided and abetted by the USA . The point you make with regard to the death of one resistance leader (terrorist ) because their not Jewish ! is unfortunately entirely correct, this conflict will in my opinion spread and the USA will find itself being drawn more and more in to suppling armaments and personal. Another war where there are no winners.
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Apart from October the 7th last year, I donât think they have routinely, and wholesalely, targetted civilian populations as the Zionists do. The French Resistance, similarly faced with an invader, committed acts of destruction to life and equipment which may have resulted in civilian deaths, but I do not believe that there was the wanton disregard for them that we see in Palestine.
BTW, I have agonised, in deliberately avoiding the word Jewish, about using the word Israeli because I do not mean that I attribute the numerous acts of war criminality to those populations as a whole. Instead, taking my lead from many French people I know or have known who make a distinction between Nazis and Germans, I have decided in future to use the word Zionists.
I wonder how many agree that that is a better description?
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I would imagine that the Hamas policy of âfrom the river to the seaâ probably equates to some of the policies followed by Nazi Germany.
Taking sides in this catastrophe just stirs up more heartache. On all sides â stop lobbing bombs and rockets at each other, sit down and talk and release whatâs left of the hostages.
Really??? Unbelievable.
I agree with that, all the hostages including all those held in Israeli prisons.
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Of course!
There can be no justification for holding innocent hostages under any circumstances.
We need to progress from the kindergarden argument of âplease miss he started itâ. We need, but lack, some real leaders who can move us forward from this current mess.
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No I do not agree, you appear to be trying to sit on the fence ! on the one hand stating that the Israeli`s have routinely and wholesalely targeted civilian populations and then perhaps fearing your remarks may cause offence you wish to refer to the Jewish population as Zionists.
Zionism (Zionists ) JEWISH nationalist movement with the goal of the creation and support of a Jewish National state in Palestine.
Jew /Jews any person whose relion is Judaism.
This comment / correction is not meant to be seen as a criticism merely a clarification
Quite the opposite, you have missed the point. I want to avoid using the words Jewish and Israeli when referring to the right wing apartheid policies of the Israeli government.
This is because Israelis are simply citizens of that state, and Jewish people are found all over the world and, as you say, are simply people of the Jewish race or religion. Neither of which can be blamed, unless they specifically support it, for the extremist and apparently genocidal, actions of Netanyahoo and his cronies.
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Fair enough, I was possibly being a little pedantic ie a Jew is a Jew . If I wished to be a real pedant I would say that really they should be called Hebrews.
Netanyahu is nothing more than a criminal doing everything he can to hang on to power as once he loses the Presidency he will be put on trail for corruption
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The point of using the term Zionist is that it refers to a particular form of nationalism which, contrary to UN opinion, has come to mean the displacement and suppression of the Palestinian people long settled in the area. Not only that but the denial of the Palestinians in Gaza and the West Bank the opportunity to live in peace and equality.
This even extended, probably still does, to the seas off Gaza, which if it was a recognised state would be territorial waters, by Israeli patrols forbidding fishermen beyond a certain restricted area. This has resulted in over fishing and a reduction in catches to the detriment of the population. Small wonder that they want to take up arms against such oppression.
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Yes the term Zionist is popular amongst Hamas and Hezbollah and no doubt Palestinians who do not support those factions and for all the reasons you stated. I think the real problem this war continues is that no Government of any significance wishes to support the Palestinians so the Israelis and the American`s can do what they wish, If another country was to step in provide heavy weapons plus air defence systems plus tactical aircraft would the Americans stay ? I think not
Maybe not, all depends how close to an election they were and how they saw the Jewish vote going. 
But would they risk another Vietnam, or Afghanistan? Hmm. They are daft enough. 
Mind you, so-called super powers should just be realising by now, that they are only super powers because of nuclear weapons, and if using them is almost out of the question, their choices of action are nearer to the rest of us. The Yanks should, and might, have learned from the 2 above mentioned, Russia must soon come to terms with that fact in Ukraine, and, despite Tibet many years ago, it may well be why China hasnât risked Taiwan so far.
Only on a slight tangent to the thread (because it is about victory by any reasonable means) I do not share the general horror in Europe at the possibility of a Trump Presidency. Either he will hold back on his NATO denying promises, or, a unified Europe without the USA could well handle a Russia in expansion mode. A paper tiger in revelation, who would have thought that a âsuper powerâ could not successfully invade, subdue and swallow a much smaller neighbour within 20 months?
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As Bidon scrambles around trying to rescue his presidency from being one of foreign policy (his supposed strength) disasters, he should consider pulling the plug on all arms shipments to Israel, including defensive, on November 6th, when all the votes are in. If there is an immediate and definitive ceasefire then defensive weapons shipments could resume.
It will never happen of course, but better to go out with a bang than a whimper.
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Nothing to do with France this post . Are we allowed to post whatever we want or is there a moderator ?