King Charles III

Thank you, Graham for uploading this very good interview. Martin Fletcher is a very astute chap. One can hope that the new King will listen to people such as this because he has some excellent proactive advice. :bouquet:

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Who says so?

But I wasn’t talking about POW!!!

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No? But I was :joy: Weren’t you (and others) making excuses for the PoW Ltd cock up? if not I misunderstood. It seemed to me that nobody here wanted to face the fact that it was an insensitive and unnecessary thing to do at this point in time. We even had talk of broken toes as an excuse :joy:

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Martin Fletcher carefully covers the balance that Charles must make in stepping from the shoes of a PoW, worn for half a century, being very vocal on the causes he believes in, many of which are admirable and like climate change, well before they became fashionable.

“He needs to justify the monarchy, make it relevant. One way is talking about the causes he cares about but in the other hand if he goes to far…”

It would be so much easier to say nothing and let things he sees as wrong just happen but he is not that man.

A “polarized and politicized society”, indeed

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Mark Serwotka, general secretary of the Public and Commercial Services Union appears to have lost no time using royal events, in which he actually has no members, to serve his own agenda.

I don’t disagree with Martin Fletcher at all. He was discussing possible stratigies for Charles. My question was who thinks what Charles has to say has any value? On what topics is he qualified to give “excellent and proactive advice”? Will he be able to constrain himself from diverging from those topics and when does “advice” become interference?

Did you watch him buttering up Michelle O’Neill and all but snubbing loyalist Jeffrey Donaldson? I don’t think his mum would have done that, especially with the NIP difficulties.

Yes, protecting employees rights. No a bad agenda IMHO.

As outlined in the interview I linked to, it would seem that William will assume that rôle in his place…

Made me smile

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I think with regard to The Guardian the crucial distinction is between management - which is thoroughly establishment, and is roundly criticised by the left - and some that write for it - especially those that are not on the staff or indeed journalists, but real experts in their field.

Its saving grace is not that its editorial politics are very different from other mainstream media, but that it genuinely believes in featuring a diversity of views (for example the Tory Katy Balls writes regularly).
What’s interesting, though, is that the very fact that it features some diversity makes it appear, in the UK context , as leftist or anti-royal - because there is simply no attempt to reflect anything other than establishment or right-wing politics elsewhere.

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Watching the Vigil of the Princes, with many people silently filing past, it occurs this may well be the splendid, final act. Many must be drawn not just to pay respect to a dutiful Queen but to witness history itself.

Britain may decide it no longer needs a United Kingdom and may let the monarchy go. The royal family might just be less bereft than we imagine. No longer chained to service yet still enjoying fabulous private wealth, the families can enjoy life much as billionaires do but in hitherto elusive freedom.

The days of empire are over and this final symbol is now to many an anachronism. Britain is passing into history as did the gilded brilliance of Portugal and Spain, Rome and Persia, Greece and Egypt.

At least there will still be the politicians to blame for society’s injustices and media stars as icons.

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For those that might be deciding to call me mawkish, I’ll save you the time.

This is very relevant to your perspective Susannah:

Eerily similar to the UK division over brexit…

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I have dutifully read all the comments on this and other royalty related posts and feel that the percentage who choose to trash the future of the Royal family have the right but will get nowhere.
On Monday the world will say goodbye to a very special person who has reigned throughout most if not all of our lives. Probably the most recognisable face in world history.
Yes life and the royal family will be different going forward however their presence will continue without creating waves that matter in the grand scheme of life.
Focus will quickly pass from the historic events we are currently witnessing and everyday life will resume.
I became a home owner in France 30 years ago and made France my home 14 years ago, I am a European but will always be British and a royalist at heart.
Thank you to our long lived gracious Queen and good fortune to the new King.

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A cat’s paw? That won’t do William’s rep any good though. The worst of both worlds really. Though if between them they give Donaldson and Truss a hard time, what’s not to like, from afar that is :slightly_smiling_face:

Beautifully said, JohnBoy

Seems the law might be changed to isolate Andrew…

Minister of State, Andrew? Is he sure? But wouldn’t it be fun if King Charlie sacked him and he took him to court for wrongful dismissal. Yes, I know, fanciful. :roll_eyes: :rofl: