Linking two adjoining parcelle on the Cadastral plan

Advice please we are looking to amalgamate the two parcelles on which our property sits .The smaller of the two is where the house and barn sit , the second parcelle contains the pool,terrace,greenhouse,well,potager etc
The parcelle are joined and both are in the same zonage area.
Has anybody had experience of doing this ? Where do we start ?

Talk to the Mairie.

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Interesting- why do you want to do it?

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That was going to be my question because we bought a parcel next to the one which contained our small house and later extended the house over the boundary into that parcel. No change was made or needed and it is still like that today.
In fact I am sitting in one parcel at the moment and typing this in another one.

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We actually own 6 parcelles, and keep thinking of sorting them out but cost puts us off. You need to employ a gÊomètre to redefine the plots into one single plot, and register this. They do not come cheap.

Edit: scratch that, I’ve just remember our problem was that the parcelles are not all the same thing - we have marais, agricultural and so on. So can’t just add them together.

But if they’re the same designation you can by filling in this form.

Spooky. A bit like living on the International Date Line in the Pacific. :slight_smile:

That’s true, It cost us about €1K to do one side of a 5500M2 rectangle fifteen or so years ago.

Our property consists of four parcelles. One of them is classified as agricultural, so the taxe foncière is cheaper.
Can I get EU subsidies for not growing something there? :wink:

That sounds a bit steep. My plot is based on quite a number of parcelles and I was considering getting a geometre to plot the overall boundary, but since decided not to pursue it as I could fence off the accessible sides by making sure I was inside my boundary after looking on google earth and overlaying the parcelles.

A question does come to my mind though - in the event that someone wanted to do something with a neighbouring piece of land, would the onus be on them to define the boundary, or would that be with me, or would it be a joint ‘thing’???

Very interesting. Where do you find out the designation of the parcelles ?

I thought so at the time but the neighbour on that side was taking liberties. It’s turned out to be a good investment because it put him back in his box and we haven’t had any trouble since.

So you had to foot the bill 100% as you initiated then. So if someone wanted to define a boundary against mine I assume they would pay, being the initiator. Pleased it was a good investment for you :+1:

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Long explanation leading to a question, and I used ChatGPT to help sort this out!

Cadastral surveyors recently visited to measure my property, which currently consists of seven parcels of land. Their aim is to reorganise these into four clearly defined properties on an updated cadastre: a house, two barns, and a workshop.

I have since received a document showing both the “situation actuelle” and the “situation nouvelle”, along with an invitation to the mairie to confirm that I am satisfied with the proposed cadastral update on display.

The document (below) lists the areas of each of my four revised properties - 52, 2.88, 5.00, & 8.56 - and provides two different totals – 13.56 & 16.96 – and doesn’t indicate out which form of measurement applies to these areas. Hectares, square metres…?

ChatGPT established the units in the blue box - “ha” as hectares, “a” as ares, and “ca” as centiares – and how they relate to the four areas listed below the blue box, and the totals shown.

I’m satisfied that the individual areas are correct. But there are two different totals given:

  • 13.56 (i.e. 1,356 m²), which matches the actual physical area of my property.

  • 16.96, which is larger and unclear.

My question is: what could this second total of 16.96 represent?

Doing the maths, the 16.96 is the total of the figures marked J and K, plus the two marked S.

Probably no help!

And 13.** is just J and K. Interesting as the S’s are “sol” I think so why separate them?

Out of curiosity how much will this cost you? We were going to do similar but cost was off putting.

Nothing as far as I’m aware. I was told surveyors were coming, they came and went. No mention of costs. I didn’t ask for it.

I had this several years ago now. All the commune was done to update the ancient cadastral plan which is and was well out of date. This time even the well was included on the new plan and it cost nothing to the inhabitants andproprietaires of the commune and we went sent copies when it was all completed free of charge. Everything appears on it now, even garden sheds so you can’t hide anything structural or piscinable any longer

52 + 2.88 + 5.00 + 8.56 = 68.44.

5.00 + 8.56 = 13.56. That sum looks ok.

But nothing adds up to 16.96. All very confusing.

Hope I can sort this out when I visit the mairie. My concern is that the 16.96 figure is the one they calculate property tax on, and that figure is higher than the actual area of my property.

Yes it does.

The first number “52” is incorrectly notated - it’s 0.52 (52 ares).

So 0.52 + 2.88 + 5.00 + 8.56 = 16.96.

13.56 equals the sum of J and K.

So the question is whether the first two items represent a different type of land that is (I assume) not liabkle to property tax?

The figure of 52 isn’t 52 - it’s .52! and adds up with the others to 16.96, you are right, but which isn’t the physical areas of my property!