Logic for Leave?

I find your anger - clearly expressed and directed at individuals you feel are responsible - very refreshing, Jane. My own feelings are more muddled because, at present, I don’t feel seriously threatened, although our income has shrunk and may well shrink further. As pensioners all we can do is cut back on things and hope we can stay in our French home, as we have no wish to return to UK, and no means of doing so. .

I do realise that there are others who may well face many more complications than us two, and shall rely on people like you to keep us up to date with the worst of it, so we can help, even if only on the fringes and at a distance.

But I do worry about our kids and the younger generations and their futures. And people who have to live in UK with the consequences of this unnecessary tragedy, Brexit.

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Good luck also to people who post, on a site peopled mainly by immigrants, that they voted Leave because they object to EU immigration into Britain!

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@Jane_Williamson I was told very firmly at our mairie in 2015 that they stopped issuing proof of residence letters some years back and have no plans to resume doing so.

I don’t know if this is a wide-spread (non)-practice but our Mairie is quite up-to-date and ‘modern’, so perhaps it’s a trending tendency :soon::dash::thinking:

Our Mairie has stopped doing those letters too… folk should be able to provide enough proof of their French way of life, by themselves…

In the distant past I’ve had 3 Cartes de séjours, 1st one in 1989 for a year 2nd for 5 years & last for 10 years (then told didn’t need to have one as regulations have changed) & have never had to have anything from the Mairie. Just Tax declarations & proof of habitation & a few photos for the Prefecture. Simple!

Our friends in Vire in the Maconnais have just obtained one.
It may very well be that they are still available in smaller communes.

I do find it bizarre that someone working in “financial services” whatever that might be would have voted to leave a huge market .

Makes me think of the much-esteemed and strictly invitation-only Chartered Society of Chip-Bottlers, Fellow of the College of Chocolate Teapot Practitioners, and Master Trouser-Leg Roller and Shirt-Unbuttoner’s Guild.

All very tasty and incredibly lucrative work :hugs:

What a rather shameful post. Tell me, is stabbing people in the back your normal behavior or is it that you simply disagree with me? As for pro Brexit yes I am for leaving. I have made that clear and obviously it upsets you. Global warming! what are you babbling on about?

What a rather spiteful post. Stabbing people in the back a speciality is it? Global warming8 What are you babbling on about?

Why post twice?

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I could only find one item about buying a car, but, then, I don’t have a subscription.

It’s hardly stabbing you in the back - seems pretty open to me.

We know you are pro Brexit - that’s fine but as someone else pointed out a forum full of people who live in France or have property there is not a natral home for sympathy with the desire to leave the EU.

Global warming - dunno but you could put that one to rest to rest by stating your views (assuming that you, in fact, don’t run a pressure group of global warming deniers).

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I do think that Jane’s post could be read to suggest that Kenneth, rather than Lord Lawson, was the pressure-group runner.

Reference to “the last-mentioned” in the sentence would have made it clearer who was involved in what, and not seem unintentionally to implicate poor Kenneth in thawing glaciers and conjuring up tornados. :thinking::confused:

When someone makes a snide comment behind your back and not to your face then I’m afraid I consider that to be ‘stabbing in the back’. That you appear to be supporting such action I’m afraid doesn’t say much. for you either.
That you and many others offer a different opinion to mine is not a problem. Snide remarks are something else!
As for global warming I haven’t a clue what she is talking about, I have never mentioned it. She must be drinking too much!!

A reasoned response. Won’t be too popular though, I’m obviously tainted!

Because there was an unaccountable delay in the first post appearing. Happy now?

No you’re not. Don’t over react, you don’t know but that your opinions are well-received in some quiet corners. It’s very unlikely that anyone looks at your contributions as offensive, as long as you stay on the side of moderation, vigour and challenge, and dissent are all grist to the mill.

Dinner Party rules apply, throwing bread rolls across the table a la Bullingdon Club :baguette_bread::scream: has yet to be outlawed.

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I’m not supporting her comments - I’m pointing out that posting them in an open thread where you are free to read them (as you have done) is not “behind your back”.

Fair enough - I couldn’t find any association between the name “Kenneth Wheatley” and anything online, in the open at least.

As I said though - if you believe and accept that that global warming exists and is due to human activities increasing the amount of greenhouse gasses such as CO2 and methane in the atmostphere then say so and put any thought that you are a “global warming denier” out of our minds (not that it is, or was, in mine as I don’t think you have posted on SF on that subject).

Nigel Lawson runs a pressure group which denies global warming.
It is fact not babble.