Have any of you apple gurus upgraded to Tahoe ?
I did it 2 days ago - upgraded from Sequoia in what I find out now to have been a moment of madness.
It’s laggy, wheel spinning, slow to react to the mouse. It a seems to start up ok asking for p/w but after that everything freezes up. I can’t move the windows.
I used to be able to fathom out what to do in this sort of situation but I’m lost, tried turning Mac on and off several times. No joy !
Yes I upgraded my Mac Mini M2 Pro a few weeks ago and it’s been 99% fine, apart from the Firefox browser which occasionally locks up, but I believe that is a known issue.
I am not a Mac guru but I think the usual treatment is to boot into Recovery Mode and use disk utility to repair the boot drive in case it’s got corrupted.
You can also do an OS reinstall from there if needed.
To get the startup options if it’s an M series (Apple Silicon) Mac hold down the power button as you start it up. For Intel Macs there are the following options:
Command (⌘)-R: start up from the built-in macOS Recovery system. Or use Option-Command-R or Shift-Option-Command-R to start up from macOS Recovery over the internet. macOS Recovery will install different versions of macOS, depending on the key combination you use.
Option (⌥) or Alt: start up to Startup Manager, which allows you to choose other available startup disks or volumes.
Option-Command-P-R: reset NVRAM or PRAM.
Shift (⇧): start up in safe mode.
D: start up to the Apple Diagnostics utility. Or use Option-D to start up to this utility over the internet.
N: start up from a NetBoot server, if your Mac supports network startup volumes. To use the default boot image on the server, press and hold Option-N instead.
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No problem with my M3 MBP
Thanks a lot Chris. I tried control R and it seemed to start up but then ithe screen locked up. I’ll try the other combinations !
Our only problem was our Cannon printer doesn’t have a driver for Tahoe, so we upgraded to a Brother laser printer following recommendations from the SF techies .
What generation is your Mac? We’d no problems (apart from turning off the stupid liquid glass) with my M2 Air or my wife’s M1 Air or my M1 iMac. Have you looked on Macmost for any similar problems.
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Those key combos are purely for Intel Macs if you have an M series Mac it’s just holding down the power button while it boots.
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No major problems here, I’ve been running Tahoe since the autumn last year, just after it came out. Occasional bugs, crashes, etc, as usual for macOS new releases, but these have mostly been squashed by subsequent updates. Some of the updates have caused new issues, but again, not unusual for Apple.
The biggest problem I had recently was unrelated to Apple, but rather Oracle, whose update to mysql server hosed my running instance, forcing me to downgrade back to an even older version, then reinstall my databases from a backup. Learned that Time Machine was incapable of snapshotting live processes, which means that it had saved nothing of the databases. Fortunately, I had some older manual backups from which to rebuild my databases.
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Are you running an Intel processor or an Arm chip ? I’ve seen a variety of issues reported with upgrades to Tahoe on Intel machines, mostly in 3rd party software, from crashing to freezing and other annoying behaviour.
Hi John, It’s an m4 Mac mini, new last year. I’ve managed to get to the stage of trying to unlock the mackintosh HD. But my login password is rejected. I have a feeling that it could be a language problem, that is, I’m using my azerty keyboard but maybe a querty keyboard is expected. I do have the long winded recovery key, but it’s quite difficult to use because you have to type every single letter accurately. I’m leaving the beast to stew until tomorrow ! Any advice welcomed.
I’ve also noticed that Time Machine may not actually work. Saving that problem for later.
Probably is worth plugging in a QWERTY keyboard if the machine was sourced from an English speaking state.
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I’ve also noticed that Time Machine may not actually work. Saving that problem for later.
You’re right AM. It came straight from apple.com. Looking back, I seem to remember when I got it working that there had been a language glitch.
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When I had a Mac it was necessary to have 2 copies of time machine files on 2 separate hard drives when updating. 1 copy would be used to reload data after the update. The second was required is it was necessary to revert to the previous version of OS and the ‘updated’ time machine disc would not work with the earlier version.
I hope you get it sorted without data loss.
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I’d assume the settings for language and keyboard would not be altered by the update. Normally all setting are preserved. But IMO Apple desktop S/W quality has been on a downward curve for quite a while now, so I take nothing for granted.
You just boot up, enter the password and the machine hangs? Or does it seem to be doing something?
If you do hold down the power button during start up does a menu (maybe eventually) appear?
Now that I come to think of it I did have a few issues with the iMac. I even went through the hoops to get a stand alone Sequoia installer on a USB just in case (and that wasn’t easy 
). I resolved it in the end and Tahoe runs fine now.
It’s hard to diagnose this sort of thing at a distance 
Yes, to add to all before, I had the pleasure of being donated a france keyboard 
and the first thing I found was the characters were all different when typing in, I recall typing and the keyboard was still sending the querty characters - various settings needed to be changed, good luck with that if you can’t log in !
I recall the raison d’être of apple was ‘just make things simple’ ? (something I’m sure David Spardo would completely agree with, ha!)
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And indeed Jobs did.
But you need to understand how keyboards work. The keyboard has no intelligence, it doesn’t send the character you press to the machine, just the key “number” that has been depressed. All a computer sees is that the top left key has been depressed, or the bottom right or the third from the left in the middle. So if you have told the computer you are using an AZERTY you get the character mapped onto that key on an AZERTY keyboard, if you have told it QUERTY likewise, or kanji for that matter.
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This is almost certainly the problem. The OS is expecting the key codes for your password based on the language mapping of the previous keyboard, which is almost certainly different to the new one.
I have this problem with a Mac mini I took with me to Ireland. It was originally sold and the OS set up, with a French Apple keyboard. As I couldn’t bring that with me to Ireland,cI bought a wired PC keyboard from Tesco and tried logging in to my account with it. Of course, not only had I switched language layout, the new keyboard being Qwerty, but I had also switched from an Apple keyboard to a PC-Intl 105 key keyboard. Fortunately, I have done this before, so I know mostly where the mappings differ, and finally managed to find the correct key sequence to correspond to my login password. It was a bit frustrating though for a while, and I have to remember each time that the keys I want to press are not those I see on the keyboard. Makes for a good exercise in brain training 
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True, but my brain is struggling just to get a few of the right letters accepted by the computer.!It should be so simple. If only.
Yes of course, I think I should mean the computer was still interpreting the key presses as coming from a Querty keyboard.
So maybe we need to find the keys mapping between Azerty and Querty so you can work out what your password in Querty might be when typed in Azerty, if that makes sense?
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