Minor turning 18 (valid for WARP) - Lawyer says can't apply now

My son has lived in France since 2015 when he was 8. He has UK citizenship so should be able to get a 10 year WARP (he did have a DCEM card) now that he has turned 18. He lives in the Hauts-de-Seine prefecture with his father, who was and is covered by the WA and has a 10 year WARP.

We have been told by lawyers that the WA conversion is no longer applicable and we need to apply online using the “vie privée et familiale”. option.

He has tried to make an appointment at the Prefecture and they have told him he needs to apply online and we have tried to find other Brexit knowledgeable lawyers who may be able to confirm what we need to do.

Does anyone know if this information from lawyers is correct and if the WA no longer applies to my son on turning 18 this year (2025).

Thank you!!

If you do Facebook then I’d suggest you join this group, which has forgotten more about WARPs than most of us will ever know.

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I don’t have Facebook. Thank you for letting me know about the group JohnH.

We shouldn’tneed farcebook to explain our rights under the Withdrawal Agreement!

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It’s not about Facebook explaining your rights, it’s about getting help to make the argument, with the facts behind you, based on the experience and expertise of others.

It’s one thing that Facebook is quite good for.

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If this is Kim’s group, didn’t she also have a website for those not on Facebook? I seem to recall she posted one. Obviously as you say @JohnH, the basic informational website won’t help with speaking with others and getting advice, but it may at least be a start.

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I don’t/won’t enrich “social media” shiesters - if official channels can’t give me the information I need then I will live without it.

I agree entirely, but that ship has sadly already sailed :slightly_frowning_face:

All this stuff is a mystery to me, but knowing how ridged French processes can be, I’d lose no time starting that route, even while you explore others.

Hello Dom, your prefecture are talking out of their backside and you don’t need a lawyer especially when they have given you such bad inaccurate advice.

He absolutely is eligible for an Article 50 CdS and must apply for one before he reaches 19.

We have a website which contains a vast amount of info, Article 50 Carte de Sejour | carte de sejour help article 50

However, if you would like to email us on art50cds@gmail.com we can advise on how to proceed.

Kim

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You can’t do a “vie privée et familiale” if you hold an Article 50 CdS.

Thank you John_Scully. There must be a number of people who were minors when the WA took effect and I don’t quite follow why all of a sudden the rules that were supposed to apply to them have suddenly disappeared. I think you are right though to at least get his information into the system.

Dom, I’ve replied to you above. The rules haven’t changed.

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That could be a route to confusion. Official channels are often hard to decipher particularly for those. not completely fluent in French, and a helping hand can be invaluable. Even if it is via Facebook. One just needs to use it intelligently.

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Sorry! I refuse to use it at all.

Thank you Kim!!! This is exactly what I thought. I cannot thank you enough. I will email you separately.

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Your choice of course.

If you were in dire straits would you refuse a life raft just because it came from someone you objected to?

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While I share your dislike of Zuckerberg and the misuse of data that can go along with social media platforms, you are potentially missing out on a valuable resource - the community and mutual help aspects of social media, specifically on Facebook.

There are many Facebook groups on a myriad of topics which operate in a similar way to Survive France - people share information freely and help each other, with no money changing hands and no exploitation of data.

Personal preference of course, but I can’t help feeling there is an element of “cutting off your nose to spite your face” here. :slight_smile: It’s possible to use Facebook without sharing any more personal info than you feel comfortable with, and it can be a valuable resource, not just a haven for “shysters” as you put it.

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To me Kim that is, thank goodness, double dutch. That’s why I prefaced my post with “I know nothing”. I know you are an expert in these arcane matters :slightly_smiling_face:

The point I was trying to make is that when I’m faced with multiple routes to getting something through French bureaucracy, taxes, PACS, marriage, planning permission, planning retention :roll_eyes:, etc. etc. I tend to embark on a them simultaneously, I do not wait to “discover” the definitive approach. So by the time that becomes apparent I’m already down the road (or on more than one occasion actually over the line). I think of it as hacking away at the undergrowth until I find a way through. :slightly_smiling_face:

Le mieux est le mortel ennemi du bien

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On the other hand, finding someone like Kim, who has “been there, done that, bought a shopful of T-shirts”, and getting their advice, can save you an awful lot of undergrowth-hackery. :slight_smile:

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Of course Chris. It’s wonderful to have expert advice. However, I’ve been hacking here since 1981, when there were no experts :slightly_smiling_face:

All I did was give my view. Take it or leave it :roll_eyes: