My Life With an iPhone

As I was gifted an Apple Watch by my son recently to enable automatic alerts to be sent out in case of yet another fall, I did try to persuade myself it was a good idea.

Lots of conflicting advice about, particularly regarding the Watch’s relationship with an iPhone. The dreaded Smart Phone. Mainly the issue of whether it is necessary to be in constant Bluetooth contact, or whether the iPhone is merely required for the setting up process.

I believe it is the latter, but have not had the chance to prove this yet. So I bought a ‘renewed’ iPhone on Amazon for just under €90, yes, expensive, but when new ones can cost over a thousand, perhaps a bargain.

I have spent over a week with techie friend Eddie trying to learn how to work the thing. I am gradually getting it but there are still frustrating things I don’t understand, and just as I think I have got the plot, something else raises its head without explanation or apparent solution. The latest was, for no reason at all, the contacts’ icon expanded to a large square with Eddie’s name in it allowing me only access to him and no-one else, still haven’t worked that one out.

Anyway, while all this was going on I began to read more about the Watch and, although there is much to moan about there I am coming round more to Davey’s original idea and that is to rely on that alone. Still loads to work out but I have been wearing that today and might well get used to it.

I found an authoratative pdf file on line and learned that a sudden, hard, fall will send a distress message to my chosen numbers but not automatically send one to the emergency services, that has to be done by me or my rescue friend. Guess who Marie-Paul. :joy: But my position is accurately recorded and sent and I discovered that today by accident. Don’t know how I triggered it but it did show precisely where I was. Oh and my heart rate is normal. :rofl:

If I do use this instead of the iPhone I will get another sim for that (at present it is borrowing my fliptop Doro’s sim) and return the one I am used to my Doro. All my contacts are on at least 2 and maybe 3 devices, but I can only access 1 at the moment.
So, still under consideration, I’ll take it with me to my 2nd kine visit tomorrow and wear the Watch on my wrist, but keeping them both relies on much more ease of use.

Glad you are finding the Apple Watch useful David!

Yes there is a learning curve with “Smart Things”, but you’ll get there, and like the rest of us you’ll wonder how you ever did without it! :slight_smile:

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I admire your confidence. Not sure I’d go that far though. I gave up wearing watches of any kind 20 years ago so this thing has to prove its worth in no uncertain terms.

As I said I’ll give the watch a go and see where it takes me. BTW Eddie sorted the problem with my contacts on the iPhone, he has no more idea than me how it got where it was but at least I now know how to get out of it if it happens again…I think. :thinking:

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Tis because these things are inherently capricious.

Sometime you have to open your mind. Let’s be honest here. Apple had ‘windows’ graphical interface applications, that include Microsoft Word and Excel, years before they arrived on any Windows PC. Apple invented the smartphone as we know it today. So many have tried to copy it and some just no where near. Android is a poor copy just as most things Google do. The Apple watch when adopted and used as Apple promote, is a device that has so many ways it can help and assist. Not just when you fall over. look at the health apps that it comes installed with that monitor your heart. Can perform an ECG. measures your blood oxygen. How many steps you have taken in a day. Feed it with useful info such a Diabetes results and just see how much it can help.n And yes there’s an Apple iPhone behind it all also helping to keep you fit. So many APPS that are on Apple are also on Android. So, so much of this is about trust! That’s evident by the fact that you admit to having so many devices and all are not synced. That’s one of the most powerful adaptation of technology that Apple scores heavily with. No matter what Apple device you own, iPhone, iPad, iWatch, Mac even their smart speaker HomePods. So long as you are using the same account, all work together seamlessly and all automatically sync. So long as you have taken the time to learn what to press of course. No smart device will do this automatically, you have to give the instruction. You talk about €90 as being expensive. I am sorry to say that if you want a service, be prepared to pay for it. I am going to be certain that your €90 purchase will not run the latest IOS software so you have already tethered your watch to an out of date IOS with most of the best benefits locked away. So in fact you are asking the watch to achieve something it can’t because you have determined that you are not prepared to pay for the correct tools to do the job. Tell me. If you wanted a Mercedes because it gave you certain accessories that are only available on Mercedes, Would you go buy a Nissan because it’s cheaper and expect the Nissan to give you the same accessories? So. 1, Why expect the Android driven Doro to do the job of the iPhone. And 2. Why cut the Watch off at its knees by buying a iPhone with an out of date IOS? Give peace a chance.

I think you may have mistaken me for someone who wanted these things in the first place Brian, I was gifted the watch because my worried son refused to take no for an answer and bought it and sent it to me nevertheless. Having received it I thought it only fair to give it a go but then was confirmed in the belief that it would only work if an iPhone was also bought (couldn’t be borrowed, must be paired), simply to set the bloody thing in motion. So obviously, not wanting one of those either, I was forced to buy one nevertheless just to keep faith with a forceful but caring son on the other side of the world. So naturally I searched for the cheapest option which, to me, was an unwelcome but necessary expense, just as if I bought a new car and had to pay thousands for a once only starter motor.

I find both the Watch and the iPhone difficult to understand and even more difficult to find useful.

My Doro that you delight in mocking saved my life just before Christmas but if I couldn’t have reached it or broken it in the fall, I would more than likely have been saved by my dog who kept me warm and led rescuers to me.

Who gives a shit for the wonders of a wrist and pocket bound wonder? Certainly not me who hasn’t worn a watch in over 20 years and, if Elon Musk was to offer me a trip to the moon and back for tuppence I would reject it as too costly.

You can stick your technology where the pixels don’t shine, I am not a hidebound caveman, I am giving both of these a fair go but the only thing I have found useful about either so far is errr. nothing. absolutely nothing. The only advantage could be said to be that I have the time and date on my wrist at all times, but I threw that away decades ago, why on earth would I want it now? Last night in bed in a power cut I kept it on, simply because my electric clock wouldn’t work, but I needed to grapple about in the dark for my specs to read the miniature monstrosity because the numbers are tiny.

So don’t lecture me about cost cutting for excellence because you haven’t demonstrated any to me. I will give both a few more days but even my techie mate, Eddie, said today, I think it is time to go back to the Doro David. 'Nuff said.

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I am getting increasingly p**sed off with iPhones.

For work I had an iPhone and a stripped out iPhone for access to a DCS. After redundancy I kept with iPhones, but the latest upgrades have increasingly being intrusive and gathering information for … I think I will go full drug dealer and use my old Nokia 3210.

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@David_Spardo , I think you need to start a podcast :rofl:

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David, that’s a young person’s attitude (most don’t know how to tell the time on an analogue watch) whereas our generation are real watch people.

If only I knew how and could find the time. :rofl:

How sweet of you to say :wink:, I just found that I hated the thing always there and it was not needed. Everywhere I looked there was the time, on the tachograph in front of my eyes every working day, in at least 3 rooms of my 7 room house and 6 in England before that, along with the main office and my own at work there, not to mention Radio 4 (+ World Service) on wherever I was 24/7, who needs something clinging to their wrist all the time? Not me.

My abstinence would have been even longer if, on the point of the decision, a family member had not given me a birthday present :enraged_face:. Always said I was too nice, I even wore it after we came here and they couldn’t see me, 'till it finally stopped working and I heaved a grateful sigh of relief. :joy:

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Here you are, a perfect example of uselessness, just before taking a break for my porridge, I thought I would check the iPhone for any emails to save me moving away from here.

Clicked the icon, it asked for touch ID, it reads my thumb print. So I touched it, nothing, then I touched it a bit longer, nothing, then I gave it a really positive short touch, bugger all. Now I have a message inviting me to try again. :astonished_face:
So I gave up and touched the home button to take me back to the icon page/screen whatever, got there alright but now there is a little 1 to tell me I have a message waiting, there isn’t, I have just checked on the trusty PC, so it is telling me about my failure in the touch department. Very useful, I must say, not.

Love, Victor.

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Yes, there are times when I want to throw mine (an android) through the nearest window.

But, it would be hard for me to live without it. It will take you a bit of learning and fussing with it, but there are some apps that are just worth having on a phone.

I’m not much of an Apple fan. I suppose for people who literally live on their phones 24/7 (my daughter is one of them) they might be worth the premium. But for me, a mid range android for 2-300 euros is plenty good enough. There is plenty of functionality in them that I just can’t be bothered to know about.

As for watches, I dumped mine when I got a phone that had the time on it. We had plenty of clocks in the salt mines at work and being in Florida, getting rid of a stinky thing sliding around on my hot wrist was a blessing.

I binned my wristwatch when l retired and we moved out here. I don’t usually need the precise time of day unless for a doctor’s RDV or similar and quite happy to agree with friends to meet “after lunch” or similar. As mentioned there are devices all over the place to tell me the time and the cats let me know when it’s their feeding time.

We bought an Apple watch for my wife on her birthday and as David mentioned it was pretty useless with an Android phone. Back to Amazon and a full refund. What is this obsession with checking bodily functions all the time? If I feel fine then I’m happy.

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A small update, sooner than I expected. I got a message on the iPhone garbling about having to recharge it. Mystified I looked at the top corner assuming it meant the battery. 85%, what’s wrong with that? Then, no wiser I tried to send a text message. Reglomobile said 'you have no credit can’t send a text ‘till you add credit.’

What??? I only put a tenner on it this time last week. Checked again, this isn’t the first time, the thing is wanting €10 a week off me. Checked further back and discovered that I have been paying that amount every 2 months on the Doro. I know there is lots of stuff going on rather than just calls and texts, but that is precisely the problem, it sucks you in to do all sorts of things, usually unsuccessfully, but all the time the € s are ticking up.

Guess what was immediately switched off, and where my sim will be heading as soon as Eddie with his nimble fingers can do the surgery.

But as an experiment, while it was disconnected, I switched the Watch back on (I had switched them both off in shock :roll_eyes:) but without logging on with my passcode. It shows me the date and time like that, so presumably without cost, then I pressed and held the appropriate button 'till the option came up to call emergency services. Of course I desisted, I wasn’t that shocked, and instead selected the option ‘my medical’ or something like that. It displayed the name and number of my neighbour, the trusty Marie-Paule. Had I pushed that I have no doubt that she and her paramedic husband would soon be rushing to the rescue, following the GPS indication of where I was.

I am not sure if I would be able to talk to them, it isn’t a phone but who cares, that is exactly why my son thrust it upon me in the first place. So it seems it does the one thing I/he wanted it to, without cost or further need of the iPhone. If I am right, I am rate chuffed, as we say in Notts. :joy:

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Decision made, the dye is cast. The surgeon has done his work and transferred the sim back into its rightful place, the Doro.

The test with the watch showed that it can do the only thing I wanted it to, divorced from the iPhone and on standby but still able to detect a fall and with one press of a button, alert emergency and Marie-Paule.

I feel so much better. :joy:

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Clearly you need a non technical speaking person who can patiently take you through the steps of modern technology.

Sadly this technology is being forced on us all but there you are. You can’t make a payment for anything on the internet without the bank wanting its 10 cents worth of authentication so I am sorry to say it’s here, get used to it.

As someone who has already thanked the iWatch for saving a life, I ask you again to open your eyes to what’s on offer. The iWatch connected to my friends iPhone informed him that his pacemaker was about to give up because of a failure. He called the hospital and then on their instructions on how to, sent the watch logs to them and they then had him rush to the hospital for a replacement pacemaker.

They told him that without what the watch had reported, HE WOULD HAVE DIED!

These glass half full responses about another € 10. It doesn’t matter what device your sim card is installed in, as soon as it goes off talking the phone mast it’s spending your money! Getting texts, getting emails, is spending! All the time the phone, and no mattar what phone, is switched on, it is using data because it is talking to the system and that’s what you’re paying for. And for these people that talk about their old Nokia’s. They did just the same, just not so sophisticated.

Security such as fingerprint and facial recognition is to assist in Security whether we like it or not. Now go do your research and find out that since Apple invented 2 factor authentication, and fingerprint scanning, and finally facial recognition on iPhone , EVERY other manufacturer has yet again copied them. BUT! Thanks to Apple;s moral high ground approach to security, Apple is now the least stolen handset globally because of their built in security. Lose it, it’s stolen, you can’t find it, Apple lets you go and lock the handset remotely so it becomes a worthless brick. only you can unlock it.

And finally. Why does every other smartphone other than Apple, arrive with a virus checker built in? Aren’t Google and co capable of making their products virus proof? Or are we back to having to buy security from a 3rd Party like on Windows PC’s.

Hmmm. My Apple products are sounder the better value for money all the time.

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Once again Brian, you are completely missing the point. I do not want a non technical person any more than I need a technical one. I don’t need either, I acquiesced with my son because he was worried about my safety when out in the wilds because of my recent falls.

That’s all, I agreed to the Watch as the least intrusive and least expensive way of achieving that end. I don’t want it, and neither does he, to do anything more than detect a fall and provide the means of getting help. After trials with this we have established that that is all we need. The only reason I got involved with the iPhone was because it became clear that one was needed to pair with the Watch to start it working in its most basic form, remote safety. Once the iPhone was here, and having spent 90 odd euros to get it here, I thought I might as well investigate what it can be useful for. I have now decided that there is nothing it can do for me that I need, and so, very expensive as it is compared to the alternative, I have decided to switch it off for good. It’s done its job. :joy:

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This is exactly the nub of the problem. By all means have the tech stuff if you wish, but it should not be forced upon us all.
I do not wish to be forced to make a card payment for 1 cup of coffee.
I do not wish to have to use a machine to check in for my flight at the airport. I wish to speak with a human being who can tell me if there are refreshment facilities after the security checkpoint and how long it will take for my mobility assistance to arrive.
I do not wish to have to scan a QR code with a smartphone I do not have in order to see the menu in a restaurant.
I do not wish to be forced to buy a touchscreen device that simply will not work when I touch the screen.

As I said, by all have means have your tech, but please spare a though for those of us who don’t wish to be forced into buying and using something for which we simply have no need and / or cannot use for physical reasons.

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This is why not dealing with people is better…You can find out how far the refreshments are well in advance…And they don’t know when the assistance will arrive because it will be when it gets there.

You clearly don’t know David very well :joy:

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