No more Ruby Murray

The idea of any forum is to promote debate. If we ignored such rubbish articles there wouldn’t be many topics to talk about.
The whole thing about the word ‘curry’ isn’t new, it’s been going on for years. Just wiki the subject and you will find some interesting stuff, one such article from the Indépendant Geoff, sacré bleu.

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My respect for the opinion of a 27 year old Septic on Indian cuisine as modified for the British palate is of a size that the world’s most sensitive electron tunnelling microscope would fail to find it.

Anyway, doesn’t “curry” come from the Tamil word “kari”, meaning a sauce to be served with rice or vegetables?

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I thought that was just how they pronounced it in Birmingham…… :slight_smile: :slight_smile:

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I thought it came from “korai”, iron cooking pot…

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That is def how it is pronounced in B ham!

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I have no idea what occurs north of Watford. Satanic rituals, dogs and cats living together and even gravy on chips!

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Peter, I didn’t intend any criticism of you or the fact that you posted the article, and you certainly didn’t need the patronising remarks you got!

(Edited for clarity - no offence taken!)

Apologies.

I very much doubt it.
A walk down Gibson Street in Glasgow , the home of Tikka Masala, is full of curry houses and most of its clients would not give a damn as long as they could get their curry at the end of the evening.

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mostly from scraping it up of the pavement in Sauchiehall Street after a good night out :wink:

Yukk!

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Nope. The picture of the pyramids ‘built by African slaves’ implies that they are analogous to the statues of modern slavers being removed in America now, and that it is therefore unfair or unreasonable to target these statues. But the analogy is just mischievous, intended - like the Mail story - only to set good people against each other. Don’t fall for it - or pass it off as a joke.

There are two issues with statues of modern slavers:

  1. The fact that they specifically honour people guilty of terrible crimes that still affect the status and life chances of black people today; and
  2. Their link with the ideology of white supremacy.

Neither of these apply to the pyramids - they are ancient, and have little connection with current oppression or abuse; they are tombs, whose significance is lost in a social and religious system that no longer exists and about which we know little; and of course everybody involved in building the pyramids was African, so there is no racist aspect at all.

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Except that’s a myth. They weren’t. They were actually very well paid and looked after better than any ordinary worker in Egypt. Blame Hollywood.

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I read the article and I wished I hasn’t. Irrelevant twaddle IMHO.
Dr. Google gave me this definition, with which I concur
“The unifying factor in all international curries is the presence of a sauce flavored by a spice mixture. … Making a curry simply involves the preparation of a meat or vegetable dish in a heavily spiced sauce” (though I don’t agree with the “simply” bit).

Now if anyone is really interested in curry, rather than some Californian blogger’s (where I believe what we call Chinese cuisine originated) view, may I’d suggest this guy…

I bought it and found it fascinating. However since I can’t even boil an egg it’s more food porn in my case.

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I’m not surprised they were well paid, it’s harder to fine a good pyramid builder now than it is a post Brexit Polish plumber in London.

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According to the Californian lassie they should be Jalfrezi houses, Vindaloo houses, Rogan Josh (sometimes gost) houses, etc. etc.

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@Geof_Cox @hairbear
FFS it wasn’t posted as serious :roll_eyes:

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@graham I know it wasn’t serious … I just thought it was worth pointing out the almost universal misconception, all down to Hollywood.

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I had a Thai green curry last night

Many cooking terms are just descriptive:

Roghan josh comes from the Persian for seething fat-tailed sheep’s tail-fat (ftstf being a run of the mill cooking medium in central Asia) , the verb to boil in Persian is jushidan. You don’t write vowels the same so o and u and w are often mixed up in transliteration.

Gosht is Persian for meat.

Tikka is a small piece, masala is mixture, so tikka masala is literally ‘morsel mixture’ and the origin is Persian again. Anything tikka just means bite-sized.

Jalfrezi is apparently Bengali, and to do with stir-frying, but I don’t speak Bengali
Vindaloo is derived from Portuguese for wine vinegar and garlic and cooking in a sauce

Cooking leads to lots of linguistic borrowings.

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