Paying for fuel using Apple Pay at the pump

I am a recent convert to Apple Pay on my phone and now use it for all credit card payment. This requires that the vendor offers contactless payment which I think is now the norm.
When I buy fuel in Luxembourg where I live I pay using contact either at the drive through window or by going into the shop.
The last time I was on a French motorway was early March when I was still using a physical credit card. Every pump I saw was 24/7 and pay by cc at the pump. I am pretty sure there was no contact panel at the pump just a slot for a card but I may be mistaken.
Has anyone recently travelled the French motorways and seen if these 24/7 pumps have contactless.
Or would they allow me to start pumping and then pay at the shop/kiosk.
I am due to travel to the South of France in a couple of weeks and want to be prepared.
Thank you.

Just out of interest is Apple Pay and different from contactless payments or Google Pay?

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I don’t think so, they use the same terminals.

Being an EV driver I’ve left all that pump stuff behind me :face_with_hand_over_mouth: but… contactless transactions do have a limit and a full tank would probably surpass that. So my advice is bring a physical card as well as your phone.

Having said that, we recently spent a month in Oz and used no cash at all, we didn’t even have any. Unlike our last trip in ‘22 when we did get a bit of cash for taxis, tips etc. but then found tapping worked even in the middle of nowhere on the Gibb river road we didn’t bother this time :slightly_smiling_face:

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Not on Apple Pay or Google Pay because you’ve authenticated by unlocking the phone.

Ahh, I didn’t realise that. I have tapped with a card and then been prompted to input my PIN if over the limit I guess, but I didn’t know Apple pay didn’t have such constraints. Mind you I have found face recognition while presenting my phone a bit of a challenge :face_with_hand_over_mouth:

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I have commented on this subject before as like you, I use ApplePay for everything from buying a cup of coffee to a car.

Unfortunately France is still in Victor Hugo days when it comes to the likes of banking and insurance. The simple answer to your question is, no. Fuel pumps and ATMs do not allow Apple or Google Pay in France. Allegedly it is because of technicalities, but the fact that other countries allow it - nay, encourage it - negates this reason! Bear in mind, that the system here still caters for a supermarket throughput to be slowed down whilst a luddite pays by cheque :rofl:

I have come accross one motorway pump that allows ApplePay on the A61 north of Toulouse - but I cannot remember which one.

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Isnt that encouraging using mobiles in petrol stations?

There’s no technological reason why you shouldn’t but all you need to do is unlock the phone, not actually use it.

Interesting point! As it is established that French pumps do not accept ApplePay bar the odd one, we can safely thread drift.

In theory, yes a cell phone can cause a spark. But many have researched the possibility but have never managed to ignite petrol I believe.

They say that there is more of a chance of explosion from someone wearing rubber shoes exiting a car not earthing themselves before inserting a credit card into the pump that could cause a spark.

I have not flown an aircraft for yonks now, so do not know the refueling procedure, but back then, the first thing one did was to bond the aircraft to the bowser with a hefty earth strap. Yet we happily hopped into our Capri that wwas ouzing with petrol vapours and thought nothing of rattling a metal delivery pistolet into the metal filler neck… :rofl:

A question therefore, are there any recorded explosions attributed to a cell phone?

My suspicion is that it comes more from the early days when it was believed that the phone signal could interfere with the pumps and upset the measurement electronics. I suspect today it’s more about the risk of distraction while pumping volatile liquids.

None anwhere I have ever heard of, the old wireless guys were concerned with CB radios and the large power amplifiers that some used and it just got carried over to mobiles. Stupid really but thats how things work these days, throw out the data and let the comittee decide.
My original comment was tongue in cheek.

My understanding is they all do the same thing. The beauty of Apple and Google pay is you can see the transaction immediately on your phone. I am not totally sure but Apple Pay shows me the last 10 transactions. I love that.
I put my Revolut card into Apple Pay and of course with Revolut I can categorise the transactions.

Smileys are your friends. :wink: :smiley: :grinning: :joy: :rofl:

I have recently returned from Algarve, Portugal. I was a little surprised how few establishments excepted cards.
I was told just visit an ATM they are always close by. However not until the last day did I find an ATM with contact, by which time I didn’t need it. So rare I had to take a photo.
One shock I had when, because my phone was acting up (my fault entirely) meaning I could not use Uber (cc payment including a tip) we took a Taxi at a rank. Shock horror cash only.
So be warned,

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A tip??? :astonished:

When you order the taxi you know the fare. After you get out of the taxi the app asks if you want to add a tip.

Wow - that is a sight that I have not seen outside the USA!

Banks bang on about card security, yet they do nothing in their own house to steer people onto a secure method such as Apple or Google Pay. Crazy people.

Indeed bit I also wanted to invite comments from others. As my brother was involved with meetings to try and get CB legal in the UK so is more aware of the potential radio issues around refuelling. I know the pumps are all ATEX rated for protection.

Ha ha, I came though Dover just after my brother in his wagon. They took it apart to find his CB including the whole of the dashboard. They eventually found it, and confiscated it, from where it was hidden, in his toolbox.

My turn came and I was having kittens. Mine was hanging on a string around my neck covered (in August) by one of those thick woolen jackets, and they never even twigged. :joy: It may have been something to do with the fact that, whereas my Bro had hidden his antenna too, I had left my very prominent white red tipped, twin Firesticks in place bolted to the mirror arms. They obviously thought I was so :innocent: and had left it in Zeebrugge. :rofl:

@Gfplux

When you order the taxi you know the fare. After you get out of the taxi the app asks if you want to add a tip.

Bloody cheek. I have been a taxi driver in both Sydney and Nottingham and have never expected or angled for, a tip. I never refused if offered but always thought that the price quoted was the price justified and no more. Of course if you carried an old lady’s heavy bags up 3 flights as well, that’s different. :smiley:

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