They look and sound utterly ghastly. And thick.
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I imagine they were carefully chosen to suit PoliticsJoe’s agenda.
I suppose the problem is that you have to be a certain type of person to be a member of the Conservative & Unionist Party, and if you see everything going wrong, you hang on even more tightly.
Brown was a bit of a disappointment in terms of policy initiatives, but thank goodness was bright enough to do the right things when the financial crisis hit us in 2007-8 (if you think it was good to avoid a total collapse of the financial system, that is).
I doubt if any subsequent PM (or any Tory come to that) would have the intelligence to react similarly. When the Tories and LibDems came in in 2010 they predictably did exactly the wrong things (just as Truss etc are now again proposing).
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I bet they didn’t have to try too hard.
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Unfotunately there is a significant ammunt of the uk population who take the stance " you decided to leave the UK and live in a foreign country so why should we care" often amongst the “gammons”
Don’t you just love George Monbiot? Here, again, instead of thinking entirely inside the Westminster and UK media bubble he puts the PM candidates in a more telling international and environmental context…
I now see the last Britannia Unchained writer - Skidmore - has defected from Sunak to Truss.
My, how these politicians squirm to get into the next cabinet… and how for folks in the UK the last shreds of any hope are disappearing…
It’s all so predictable, isn’t it?
So depressing to read as it is true 
they are appalling people.
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Indeed - but it goes deeper than personalities, as Monbiot says:
It’s not just that this shell of a government, and those who seek to take it over, have no answers.
It’s that their ideology forbids answers.
Yes GB is right, completely right. When I said appalling people that’s really what I meant, more than individual personality.
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What a mucking fuddle…
Any chance you can summarise what he says? I just can’t stand his voice. 
basically de Pfeffle is going to do nothing about the energy crisis because he says he’s leaving but there’s nothing to stop him meeting with his likely successors (Truss and Sunak) to agree a policy before the succession takes place. Truss reckons she will hit the ground (?) and implement tax cuts on day one but hasn’t got a plan (go figure). The Lib/Dems are proposing a plan ahead of Labour who are still prevaricating but basically the country is shagged. This all to do with the (late) announcement by Sunak when he was chancellor to impose a windfall tax supposed to bring in billions to help but in the small print included tax breaks to the energy companies which mitigated (by about a third) the amount that would actually be collected from them.
The time runs out on the application of the “windfall” before parliament resumes and the bills are set to rise again for consumers.
I think I have covered it…
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Thanks Graham, just glad we’re not there now.
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Are we indeed moving towards ‘there is no truth and the biggest liar wins?
The Undeclared War on All4 is both entertaining and topical
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absolutely… it doesn’t take long to see the current comparisons 
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absolutely… it doesn’t take long to see the current comparisons
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But the ending, for a piece of fictional TV is very disappointing don’t you think. Perhaps if the GCHQ staff were more believable rather than a bunch of moronic individuals portrayed in this series we might have had a more exciting denouement rather than our Russian hero getting caught and presumably killed. 
not a all… the production team obviously leaving the door open for a continuation sometime in the future perhaps.
It’s an often used ploy… just think of Line of Duty and how each was left for the next series…
never say never
An excellent production. 
Seems to me that the invasion of Ukraine has in reality shown us that Russia is not quite as competent as portrayed in The Undeclared War.
And thankfully, the NCSC arm of GCHQ is undoubtedly constantly hard at work protecting the UK on a daily basis, by stealth and in anonymity.
One take away is the scene with trolls infiltrating and influencing open mass media sites. The manipulation of social thinking is sadly no fiction and we should all take what we read online with a large spoonful of …. 
Trouble is, do we really want incompetents in charge of hundreds of nuclear warheads?