PM candidates

they really look like Barbie and Ken :grin:

I know how Kate McCann must have felt.

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I don’t know if anyone has already posted this, it does highlight the intellectual genius of the likely PM:

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Sooner she is elected the sooner the current conservative regime will be over.
And there was me thinking that politics will be boring without Bojo.

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bleeding useless… no wonder the UK’s foreign policy is in a mucking fuddle… if you thought the UK was a laughing stock with de Pfeffle at the helm - watch this space :flushed:

I wouldn’t count on it. There are many aspects of the current situation eerily reminiscent of 1930s Europe.

I see both Tugendhat and Wallace have now backed Truss - Tugendhat even going so far as to write an article praising her (completely economically illiterate) tax proposals - thus resolving the earlier discussion in this thread on how truly awful he really is…
(Yes yes I know he’s only saying it now because he thinks a Truss premiership is a done deal and he wants to be in the cabinet - but that just makes him awful in an even worse way!)

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Sadly sums up British politics (and for once not just the Tory party) perfectly :frowning:

All the decent Tories have been booted out and Truss is proclaiming that she was a loyal supporter of Boris.
How anyone can think that supporting someone who tried to illegally prorogue Parliament and has been found guilty of breaking the very laws that they introduced is a positive, is totally beyond me.

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Truss will be an ERG figurehead, that much is obvious. Left to her own devices it also looks like she would be a spectacular failure very quickly.

The thing that worries me is how far down the rabbit hole the UK has gone - at the moment if there is an election in or before 2024 I think that the Tories will lose - whether Truss or Sunak is at the helm - though it is not all but certain it will be Truss.

If Johnson tries a comeback and succeeds I think they will lose by an even bigger margin.

The question then is whether the Tories are sufficiently far into their fascist transformation to interfere with the election process itself - or more than they have done so far with ID requirements and boundary changes - FWIW I don’t think they are likely to do that but I’m not as convinced as I’d like.

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Been watching

Set in 2024. Scary stuff!

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Yes, I’ve watched that series… very close to the bone - and a must for those interested in cryptology and the current state of affairs in the UK and interference by the Ruskies…
say no more, nudge - nudge, wink - wink, so as not to spoil the plot…

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Where are you watching this? Most of the decent stuff on Molotov is no longer free and I don’t have enough time to watch much tv so it would be nice to know of anywhere that carries crime series (particularly US) that I now miss off molotov

I don’t think that either at present - but if things fall apart sufficiently I think the current Tory party (like the Republicans in the US) are quite capable of justifying more radical anti-democratic and anti-human-rights actions - and there really is the potential for things to fall apart very quickly in the UK now.

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All 4 using a VPN and making sure our laptop is set to UK time. :slight_smile:

Agreed. I’m a floating voter and although I’ve never felt aligned to Tory values I could in the past see why people would vote for them. The current lot, however, have veered so much to the right, are openly corrupt and are rising roughshod over tradition that I can’t understand how people can lend them their vote.

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NETFLIX would be a good starting point Karen but Undeclared War is as said, on Ch4/All4.

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I think that this will come to be seen one of the enduring worst and damaging effects of Johnsons time in office. The left of center moderating elements was hollowed out…Gauke, Gyimah, Greening, Stewart, Soames, Greive et al and unfortunately they have all seemingly left and are a loss to uk politics with currently no standard bearers of that faction

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Some interesting analysis here:

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Johnson outraged me, not because he’s a lying, devious bastard who tried to leverage the ERG, or Tory fascist wing, (TFW) as the should be known, but because he was a just a jolly chappie ā€œwinnerā€ in the sheeple electorate’s eyes. If he had been smart he could have gone on for a long, long time.

I’m much more sanguin about Truss, she’s just a stupid, inept puppet of the TFW. If anybody can screw up the Tories, it’s her. That’s not to say the TFWers won’t make a shed load of loot before she crashes and burns. But, then again, that’s what the Tories are all about. But she will crash and burn and the sooner the better.

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