Restrictions on coming to France

Carte d’identité or carte de séjour, you have the latter surely? Within the EU I don’t need to use a passport, my carte d’identité is enough. Isn’t it fantastic to be part of a group of different states all giving each other’s citizens freedom of movement, the right to work, study, travel spontaneously etc freely and without a load of constant tedious admin, checks etc…
Who on earth would think it a good idea to bin that, eh ?

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The new card that UK passport holders resident in France now have is no longer called a carte de sejour, it’s a carte d’identité (non UE). Agree with you on everything else (at least in this post!)

Err?? It’s a Titre de séjour, like all the other types of titre de séjour that exist. And in our case it is an article 50 TUE one, rather than a titre de séjour étudiant or one of the other categories.

Clearly says so on the card, unless you have been naturalised!

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Possibly folk have different cards.

Mine is headed Titre de Sejour

further down its “nature” is defined as…“Carte de sejour permanent article 50 TUE”

EDIT… what is your definition of “new” card ? Possibly for those arriving after 31/12/2020??

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My mid 2020 issue CdS matches Stella’s and Jane’s.

Titre De Sejour at the top and in the “Permit Type” field, it very clearly states “Carte De Sejour - Art. 50”.

5 year card and it was granted after our first application if that makes any difference.

It is a carte de séjour. It’s issued by your host country and states what your residence status is.
A carte d’identité is issued by the/a country of which you are a citizen.
Keep your UK passport up to date.

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If a Brit living in France is booked to travel to UK now, can they still go or are they restricted? Friends are getting confused advice!

Citizen/national… seems they are one and the same and yet not… sometimes folk think that by being Resident they are Citizen… aaargh…
confusion is not helped by the frequent use of the word Citoyen where it is used in connection with a commune/town/city/village and meant to apply to " folk who live in the … "

According to my Maire… I am a citizen of my village, but not a citizen of France (sadly)

I see no significant difference in terms of rights between citizen and national. There is a great difference between being resident in a country and being a citizen/national of that country.

It makes no sense to say you have a card that gives you the status of a French national (which is what a French ID card would be stating) and at the same time, the card identifies you as a non-EU citizen. That is not possible.

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In France there is a great difference… voting for example… an adult French national can vote…

but we can go around this till night turns to day… and back again… :rofl:

It all depends on the surrounding text and implications… and much clearer after a tipple… :wink:

Ah! The dangers of trying to eat breakfast while simultaneously trying to recollect a declining memory.

And you do realise this now means, I’ll have to tell Vero that I agree with everything in her post!

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A French citizen can vote. A resident cannot vote. I do not see the complication.
The rights of French citizens are defined in the constitution.

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This is the definitive advice from the French gov

https://uk.ambafrance.org/COVID-19-rules-for-travel-between-France-and-the-UK-28918

Thanks Jane, they have ,wisely, decided not to travel.

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The first of the compelling reasons for travel to the UK is foreign nationals returning to their countries.
I would see myself as such a person returning to my country of origin.

Yes I suppose you could play both sides against the middle….as with a UK passport you are unlikely to be asked where your country of residence is. Personally I have cancelled my trip. Just please don’t bring back a dose of Omicron…

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My intention is as always, to stay as far away as possible from everyone.
We’re quite isolated on the farm when I’m there ; & are very strict with mask wearing when out in public.

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As usual, the internet is full of Brits resident in France with zero compelling reasons to do so travelling between U.K. and France because they can with zero thought about whether they should.

My time in the UK will be spent deciding, to an extent, whether or not my (our) future lies there, or in France.

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These latest restrictions are an outrage and clearly politically motivated; shame on Macron. The Omicron variant is rampant and out of control in both the UK and France - stopping people from travelling between the two countries is futile and will cause much heartache at this time of year.

Think about travelling via a third country if you want to see your loved ones this Christmas.